Goddamn do I feel this in my bones. One fucking election 24 years ago seems more and more significant as time goes on. Can you imagine if Bush/Cheney hadn’t been in the White House? Honestly, this is mostly Bill Clinton’s fault. He poisoned the well against any democratic candidate after the Monica Lewinsky affair. Gore would have had a cakewalk in 2000 otherwise.
Eh, Monica Lewinsky was like 22 years old when Bill Clinton was 49 and he started having an affair with her. He was sort of the predator in that relationship. I wouldn’t describe him as a casualty of anything other than his own predilections.
Oh, okay, well I’m not sure to what extent I really agree with that, but then again I’m kinda arguing from the perspective of a domino effect, like the whole “for want of a nail the shoe was lost” sorta deal.
It’s none of my business what a butterfly in the Amazon does, but I can tell you that the story of the right wing using courts to fuck with our elections began long before any twinkles in Bill Clinton’s eye; I connect the dots as far back as the civil war at least, and our shambolic reconstitution effort that let traitors off the hook and gave slavery a continued existence in our country through other means. The right is a party of traitors and Jan 6 was in the works long before we were born. The Confederacy lost the war, but “won the peace”, so their ideas were never fully quashed. Ever wonder why your history books were made in Texas?
Goddamn do I feel this in my bones. One fucking election 24 years ago seems more and more significant as time goes on. Can you imagine if Bush/Cheney hadn’t been in the White House? Honestly, this is mostly Bill Clinton’s fault. He poisoned the well against any democratic candidate after the Monica Lewinsky affair. Gore would have had a cakewalk in 2000 otherwise.
The problems didn’t start with Bill, he was just a more noticeable casualty of larger trends.
Eh, Monica Lewinsky was like 22 years old when Bill Clinton was 49 and he started having an affair with her. He was sort of the predator in that relationship. I wouldn’t describe him as a casualty of anything other than his own predilections.
You mistake me. I’m only saying that it hasn’t contributed to our current predicament much, despite how it affected politics at the time
Oh, okay, well I’m not sure to what extent I really agree with that, but then again I’m kinda arguing from the perspective of a domino effect, like the whole “for want of a nail the shoe was lost” sorta deal.
It’s none of my business what a butterfly in the Amazon does, but I can tell you that the story of the right wing using courts to fuck with our elections began long before any twinkles in Bill Clinton’s eye; I connect the dots as far back as the civil war at least, and our shambolic reconstitution effort that let traitors off the hook and gave slavery a continued existence in our country through other means. The right is a party of traitors and Jan 6 was in the works long before we were born. The Confederacy lost the war, but “won the peace”, so their ideas were never fully quashed. Ever wonder why your history books were made in Texas?