• tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    9 months ago

    You’d be surprised to learn there is more than Hamas in Palestine, and the majority of people there just want their families to be able to return and have their land back that was stolen by western imperial powers, and then further taken by Israel over time. Getting rid of the Israeli state wouldn’t have to mean kicking out everyone or a genocide of the Jews there. I don’t disagree there is a lot of antisemitism in the Arab world and everywhere, it’s possible to protect the lives of Jews and Arabs in the region though.

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      9 months ago

      I’m well aware that many if not most Palestinians are not on board with Hamas. Same goes for the Israeli people who also mostly disagree with their own government and the mass killings as far as I’m aware. But you can see how little of an argument this is right now in Gaza. The Israeli state is killing people without sense although their own citizen don’t want this. I could see the same happen if the Israeli state would get dissolved. How would you stop Hamas and other militant antisemites from killing Jews then? You’ve seen what they did on October 7th, imagine what they’d do if no one would stop them. I would also wish for a peaceful solution where everyone could just get along. But there has been so much hate and trauma for generations on both sides that it will probably be a really slow process. And there needs to be some sort of instance that keeps both sides from killing each other. I don’t see how dissolving the Israeli state could actually work here.

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        9 months ago

        The conditions that led to them attacking on the 7th are very different than what they would be if Palestine had proper self-determination. But true, it will take a while to heal divisions.

        People don’t want endless violence, there have been many periods where Jewish and Arab people lived together peacefully. I agree though, a process like this would probably need third-party peacekeepers, an independent coalition could form to help protect people in the region and prevent terrorism, like the groups of states in the region that have come together to fight ISIS.