• _sideffect@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    No one has any money for rent, food, or living expenses.

    Everyone is overworked.

    We’re paid pennies compared to CEO’s.

    Every single company fucks us by raising prices because they can, and our governments do nothing because they haven’t worked for the people in decades…

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      8 months ago

      While that is all generally true, the status of most people in developed countries today is better than its ever been in history.

      That’s what’s driving fertility down. People who have access to education, medical care, relative comfort and security have fewer children.

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        My wife and I are part of a younger generation whose culture revolves around NOT having children until all those things you mentioned are attained. The stress of even having a kid, let alone multiple, is not something we’re going to address until we hit financial security.

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          And at least in most places of the world, you are unlikely to ever achieve financial security because the government inflates your fiat currency until it’s worthless.

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          The subtext there is that you feel that financial security is something which is attainable.

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            8 months ago

            No it isn’t, there’s no implication of that. Just that they won’t reproduce until they see it happening.

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        I figure it’s a combination of problems. I come home from work exhausted and don’t want to go out. So I’m at home alone. On the bad side, the work, the stress, the balance of keeping everything because the way the modern world has gone to make it difficult to look for new jobs especially if you lost yours just makes going out difficult.

        But that’s because to “go out” I’d have to drive half an hour or more away to maybe a bar. And the bar is filled with people who are going to visit said bar.

        We’re at a point where it’s easier to communicate with people hundreds of miles away instead of someone in our neighborhood, and comfortable enough to do it, while stressed enough to not make the attempts. Stack on those that are married, there’s the problem of just having enough time of day from both people having to work overtime.

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          8 months ago

          A lot of this sounds like a North American suburbs problem.

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        Pretty sure throughout history most (if not all) generations have worked to give their kids a better (if not approximately equal) quality of life to their own. That isn’t feasible for many people, and older generations are frustrated that it wasn’t/isn’t feasible for many who are currently young adults. That, along with the ability to control if you have kids, makes the choice for many of us. Why would you choose to have kids if their lives are worse than your own and you don’t enjoy your own?

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        8 months ago

        I remember reading somewhere that young people are giving up on having children because they can’t afford it - not because they don’t want it. Many adults now live with their parents because they can’t afford houses or even rents.

        Education doesn’t mean obligatory contraception. Educated people can choose to have kids if they want and could. This is especially revealing if you look at fertility rates on the basis of household income (rich people still produce kids like rabbits).

        I’d argue that it’s the living costs driving the fertility rates down, not education.

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      8 months ago

      This is in the good economies too! In most of Africa life is even shittier. I can only imagine. Well, is still mostly better than it’s ever been. History is cruel, and present but at least % of population living decent is much higher globally. Still, USA richest country in the world and we can’t Even get universal healthcare, and instead of aiding homeless domestically, or money for food abroad etc… We give a genocidal maniac hundreds of billions to play with.

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      And yet you do nothing but complain on the internet.

      If you really had no options you’d be desperate enough to kill your boss or his boss or the CEO.

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        8 months ago

        Ah yes the ol 'you’re not murdering people so none of your problems are valid". I have a cross-stitch of that in the living room

        • Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz
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          8 months ago

          I really like my boss. He is a happy, older, Santa Claus looking dude that buys us a real lunch on the day we have to come in. Always makes sure we have everything we need.

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              I am as well. I didn’t know what to make of him because he didn’t say a lot in the interviews (it was a panel style set up) and was worried he would be a hard ass.

              Nope, nicest boss I ever had. “Just do your work and ask questions before you get behind, and if you get behind say something before it’s bad.”