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Less than 10 years ago, Germany, and especially Berlin, was held up as a beacon of openness and inclusivity in a western world rocked by Brexit and Donald Trump. Angela Merkel’s decision to take in thousands of refugees displaced by the war in Syria boosted her country’s reputation in progressive circles, with many international artists and academics choosing to make the German capital their new home.
Yet the conflict in the Middle East is showing Germany in a new light, highlighting fissures in society and the arts world that until now had been easier to ignore.
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Perhaps you shouldn’t speak for >80 million people and rather refer to the government. But even then you’re full of shit. The weapons industry? Yeah, they’re a sick bunch of assholes. Loving genocides? Fuck off. Germany is one of the few countries owning up to their past mistakes.
Being complicit Genocide isn’t owning up to any mistake.
A German saying Germany is owning up to their Genocide by committing another one really goes to show what time it is in Germany right now.
Mate, you should try some other hobbies. You’ve made hundreds of posts on this topic, yet I bet you haven’t got the slightest clue on what this entire conflict is about.
Let me tell you that I absolutely hate what is going on and I absolutely don’t think we should keep supporting Israel with weapons as long as they’re violating the Geneva convention. And there are plenty of Germans with the same mindset. But we also know it’s not a one-sided conflict.
I’ll go ahead and block your toxic ass. People like you like to be loud on the internet but won’t do shit in real life.
Wow you’re so cool you don’t care about Genocide and post about other things. And people that post about Genocide have no life!
Consider not being a Genocide apologist. Imagine acting like Genocide is normal. Not surprising it comes from a feddit.de user
A main reason why it’s taboo to call the war in Gaza “genocide” is that it’s a carbon copy of propaganda from original Nazis and Neo-Nazis. We have yearly neo-nazi marches to “memorize” the bombing of Dresden and other Allied attacks against German cities. Now, obviously from a modern standpoint these “strategic bombings” were a war crime. And so were the limitations on food supplies into Germany after the second world war. But that doesn’t change that there was no genocide. The Allies didn’t try to wipe us out. They just behaved like humans who are attacked do. and humans who were atacked are rarely kind. We also remember that the things done to us were were neglible compared to what our regime would have done if it had won.
So when we see Gaza we essentially see something similar to what happened to our grandparents. A population felt wronged, allowed fascists to take over and start a war and then suffered when the facists lost their war.
Now, there’s some important differences, Hamas fortunately never made remotely as far as the Nazis (one could say we see what should have happend in 1933 here) and fortunately the IDF isn’t using fire bombings (otherwise there’d be no Palestinians left, strategic bombing took hours to kill tens of thousands, not months), but there’s a lot of similarities here. Hence learning from our past means that we have to recognize that violence is unfortunately needed to stop regimes run by fanatics. and that this violence will always hurt countless inncocents and that even the better side will commit atrocities.
That of course doesn’t change that Israel should be continued to be pressured towards minimizing suffering - and that is done - Germany takes part in food aidrops and has condemned things like settlements for many years, but all that doesn’t change that Israel being the winning power is by a huge margin the lesser evil here. Hence when the choice is binary the Israeli government is supported against groups like Hamas.