• Mikufan@ani.social
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      8 months ago

      Not actually, the end to end encryption is not active by default for example. Its just that telegram is more of a unmoderated social media than a messaging app.

      Signal, Matrix and similar are way safer but don’t usually have large piracy groups.

      • ladfrombrad 🇬🇧@lemdro.id
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        8 months ago

        To be honest Telegram doesn’t ban private groups “for piracy” and only takes out public groups that receive a DMCA.

        I think the above user is pointing out a rather fun fact - if you’re in some of the many private groups where shit is shared freely…those wanting to ban it don’t like the fact that they can’t see in those private groups.

        Like, is there any evidence of private groups being monitored by media corps or their lackeys in gov?

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          8 months ago

          This doesn’t make it secure for anything else. There are also plenty of private torrent trackers.

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            8 months ago

            Yeah, more my point is I was curious if Telegram has previously taken down private groups Vs public ones (I’ve seen a fair few of these obviously since they adhere to DMCA requests) but have never seen a private group taken down.

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      8 months ago

      The CEO is a Russian, the company is based out of Dubai, and messages aren’t encrypted by default. In fact, only private messages can be encrypted, group messages cannot. Telegram is not a trustworthy platform and a champion for user privacy like most people think, Signal is what you’re looking for.

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      8 months ago

      WTF is this ignorant “I know what they want but I’m smarter” crap, if you don’t know how it works you know nothing, and “what they want” you get from news.

      I know of a few governments not trying to really. Like the Russian one.

      Read something about its internals before saying something as stupid.

      XMPP with OMEMO is secure (not for targeted attacks, in that case you’ll just get a trojan on your Android device via some unclosed vulnerability and finita la comedia, or rubber hose cryptanalysis will be applied).