Like even if Hollywood only made pure propaganda on behest of the CIA and nothing else how is it related to every major country doing disinformation campaigns as long as spy shit has been the norm? Are you saying the US is the most successful at it?
I’m saying that US enjoys disproportionate advantage in the propaganda space because US media dominates in most of the world. This is a well documented fact, and there are entire books written on this subject.
Yea, I don’t disagree. I’m sure any country would take advantage of that. I’m just trying to figure out if you were disagreeing with me or were you just adding a random fun fact about the US?
I’m simply pointing out that while all countries obviously try to spread their influence, US enjoys a massive advantage in that regard. Saying yeah everybody does this creates a false equivalence between the sheer scale of US propaganda compared to other countries.
The US definitely has the greatest advantage in spreading disinformation but in terms of who does it to the greatest scale would probably be Russia.
When I was young the soviet propaganda was more of a joke around here during the occupation since it was insanely obvious but currently Russia is very effective with it. They managed to basically take chunks out of 3 countries before any other country even did anything really and help quell to riots in Belarus that would have most likely lead to Russia losing dominance there.
All while the US has media dominance across the world and most countries still heavily dislike the US. In terms of effectiveness the US propaganda in their media is about as effective as the Soviet era Russian one. The US is definitely not getting their dollar value for propaganda.
Nah, living next to Russia is a pretty good educator on that. I know there are way too many people on Lemmy who go the other direction with US exceptionalism and make the assumption that the US is the most powerful and everything bad is their fault while usually being American. I know you aren’t going to believe any country does bad things that are also anti US, I’m just shouting into the void when I’m waiting for something or another to pass the time.
meanwhile in the real world https://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/how-hollywood-became-the-unofficial-propaganda-arm-of-the-u-s-military-1.5560575
Like even if Hollywood only made pure propaganda on behest of the CIA and nothing else how is it related to every major country doing disinformation campaigns as long as spy shit has been the norm? Are you saying the US is the most successful at it?
I’m saying that US enjoys disproportionate advantage in the propaganda space because US media dominates in most of the world. This is a well documented fact, and there are entire books written on this subject.
Yea, I don’t disagree. I’m sure any country would take advantage of that. I’m just trying to figure out if you were disagreeing with me or were you just adding a random fun fact about the US?
I’m simply pointing out that while all countries obviously try to spread their influence, US enjoys a massive advantage in that regard. Saying yeah everybody does this creates a false equivalence between the sheer scale of US propaganda compared to other countries.
The US definitely has the greatest advantage in spreading disinformation but in terms of who does it to the greatest scale would probably be Russia.
When I was young the soviet propaganda was more of a joke around here during the occupation since it was insanely obvious but currently Russia is very effective with it. They managed to basically take chunks out of 3 countries before any other country even did anything really and help quell to riots in Belarus that would have most likely lead to Russia losing dominance there.
All while the US has media dominance across the world and most countries still heavily dislike the US. In terms of effectiveness the US propaganda in their media is about as effective as the Soviet era Russian one. The US is definitely not getting their dollar value for propaganda.
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Sure would seem that way if you stopped reading right there.
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How to say you’ve been brainwashed by US propaganda without saying you’ve been brainwashed by US propaganda. 😂
Nah, living next to Russia is a pretty good educator on that. I know there are way too many people on Lemmy who go the other direction with US exceptionalism and make the assumption that the US is the most powerful and everything bad is their fault while usually being American. I know you aren’t going to believe any country does bad things that are also anti US, I’m just shouting into the void when I’m waiting for something or another to pass the time.
The sheer historical ignorance required to write such a comment is frankly astounding.