Brin’s “We definitely messed up.”, at an AI “hackathon” event on 2 March, followed a slew of social media posts showing Gemini’s image generation tool depicting a variety of historical figures – including popes, founding fathers of the US and, most excruciatingly, German second world war soldiers – as people of colour.

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      The issue is not that it can generate the images, it’s that the filtering a pre prompt for Gemini was coercing the images to include forced diversity into the gens. So asking for 1940s German soldier would give you multiracial Nazis, even though that obviously doesn’t make sense and it’s explicitly not what was asked for.

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          It is a pretty silly scenario lol, I personally don’t really care but I can understand why they implemented the safeguard but also why it’s overly aggressive and needs to be tuned more.

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              If you create an image generator that always returns clean cut white men whenever you ask it to produce a “doctor” or a “business man”, but only ever spits out black when when you ask for a picture of someone cleaning, your PR department is going to have a bad time.

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                Doing the opposite of that isn’t any better

                And Gemini was perfectly happy to exclude blacks from prompts about eating fried chicken and watermelon.

                Turns out you can’t fight every fire with more fire, more often than not it will burn everything down. You can’t solve something as complex as systemic racism with more systemic racism just against a different group.

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                  Doing the opposite of that isn’t any better

                  Socially, it kind of is, though? When certain groups of people have been historically and chronically maligned, marginalized, persecuted, and othered, showing them in positive roles more frequently is actually a net benefit to those groups, and to society as a whole.

                  Like, yes, it’s very stupid that these systems are overwriting specific prompts, but also that’s the effect of a white supremacist society refusing to look at itself in the mirror and wrestle with its issues. If you want these big companies to let you use their resources to make specific things that could be used to highlight that white supremacy that people don’t want to acknowledge or address, you kind of have to… get them to acknowledge and address it.

                  Otherwise, build your own generative model.

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              Corporations making AI tools available to the general public are under a ton of scrutiny right now and are kinda in a “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” situation. At the other extreme, if they completely uncensored it, the big controversial story would be that pedophiles are generating images of child porn or some other equally heinous shit.

              These are the inevitable growing pains of a new industry with a ton of hype and PR behind it.

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                TBH it’s just a byproduct of the “everything is a service, nothing is a product” age of the industry. Google is responsible for what random people do with their products.