• CableMonster@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    Since we cant force people to get healthy they will be in our society with their addictions. Should they be punished for their crimes?

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      8 months ago

      I don’t think you read the comment you are replying to:

      If necessary, they should be removed from society and locked up, if they pose a danger to others.
      Putting them in a typical American prison that is designed to make their life as miserable as possible while extracting free labor helps neither them, nor the victims, nor society.

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        8 months ago

        That is two different things, one is an active threat, the other is punishment for a crime.

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      8 months ago

      Depends on the crime, the motive and their state of sanity.
      Generally, it’s for a court to decide.

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        8 months ago

        So then the woman that was taking meth, and killed her fetus is or is not liable for the death of the fetus? If your theory is that people that are in the middle of addiction are not responsible for their actions then that is pretty disasterous in multiple ways.

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          8 months ago

          That’s not my theory, and you’re not interested in engaging with me in good faith, so good bye.

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            8 months ago

            Your theory doesnt make any sense, if there is no direct consequences of actions then it opens up a whole bunch of problems.

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          Plenty of drunks kill and maim other people because they decide to drive drunk. The punishment very rarely matches the crime, yet you want to impose harsher punishments because of a miscarriage that could maybe be related to drug use.

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            8 months ago

            We should assume there is much more evidence that she is responsible beyond what the article claims, but its possible that she is innocent and just had a miscarriage. I dont know if drunks need to get a worse punishment or not, but that doesnt relate to if a woman should be responsible for killing their fetus.