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    9 months ago

    The other option is a rapist and criminal up to his eyeballs in debt for his misdeeds

    Trump has never been convicted of rape. Liberals keep repeating that but it’s a a libelous comment to make. Trump has never been charged with rape

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      Simping over trump. I wonder how you people will look back in this in 10 or 15 years.

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        Facts are not simping. Trump has not been convicted or even charged with rape.

        Why do you hate facts? It’s strange how the left lies then thinks if they repeat them lie, someone will believe them.

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          You don’t need to be convicted in a court to be a rapist, nor to be called a rapist. Convicted in a court requires the highest burden of proof. That’s not the level of proof we require for general discussions, nor is it for who should or shouldn’t be a candidate for president.

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            You actually do. If we used the same criteria we used for Trump then Biden is a rapist as well.

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              You actually do

              So then OJ isn’t a murderer, is that your stance?

              If we used the same criteria we used for Trump then Biden is a rapist as well. Why, who did Biden rape? What credible evidence is there? What even remotely convincing facts exist to suggest that Biden raped anyone?

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                No, OJ is not a murderer. He was acquitted of a crime.

                Tara Reade. There is more evidence that Tara Reade was assaulted by Biden than Trump assaulted Jean.

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                  No, OJ is not a murderer. He was acquitted of a crime.

                  So the civil jury that found him guilty committed libel? If someone is found guilty of voluntary manslaughter, you think that means people in casual conversation couldn’t call them a murderer?

                  If you want to call biden a rapist because you think Tara Reade’s account is credible, that’s fine. Go for it. But people are allowed to look at the facts as they see them and make judgments. And just because a jury doesn’t convict someone that doesn’t mean they didn’t commit the crime

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                    So the civil jury that found him guilty committed libel? If someone is found guilty of voluntary manslaughter, you think that means people in casual conversation couldn’t call them a murderer?

                    I don’t know any educated people who would. He was not convicted of murder, and legal libel is a low standard to meet.

                    There is zero evidence that Trump committed rape on Jean. She doesn’t know the most basic facts. I get you dislike Trump, but banana courts are just damaging to the whole country.

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      “Trump is a convicted rapist” and “Trump is a rapist” are not the same.

      He wasn’t convicted due to the statute of limitations (~12 years for rape). We don’t need to have a conviction to know he is a rapist.

      So quit the bullshit.

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      My mistake. I suppose if you asked most Americans if they would vote for a rapist, they’d give you a resounding No.

      But what if you ask them, would you vote for a sexually abusive forced digital penetrator? One with a reputation for walking into beauty pageant dressing rooms and dozens of accusations of sexual impropriety going back for years? It seems many Americans would say Yes, uwu!

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      In the state of NY which is where it occurred, he was found to have committed an act that is also described by the term “rape”. The only reason his conviction wasn’t for proper rape is because in NY there is a very narrow definition.

      To put it a different way, in many other states committing the same act, would be considered rape.

      State borders do not change the ethics of what he did. He’s a rapist, just not according to the State of New York’s definition.

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        No, he is not a rapist, as he never had sex with that woman, but either way, rape is a crime, and he was not convicted of a crime.

        Maybe you should read the difference between civil court and criminal court.

        It is funny to see the liberals use the terms all wrong while being so confident. Trump was never charged with a crime. It was a civil claim that was hog wash.

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            That is no the conclusion the jury came to in their verdict.

            I am defending logic and facts. It was a civil trial. It can’t determine guilt, only liability.

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              Keep justifying his actions to yourself to not feel like a trash bag for supporting him:

              “The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ” Kaplan wrote.

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                Which clearly is saying he didn’t criminally rape her. I mean how silly is that? A court saying since it didn’t meet the legal standard, we are going to say it anyways. lol

                Clown world.

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                  We’re going in circles. In other words you’re completely fine supporting a Presidential Candidate who commits rape, as long as the state they do it in makes it hard to legally call it rape.

                  You can’t argue he didn’t do it either, because he was already found to have committed the act itself, so at best you’re supporting a guy who openly sexually assaults women and you’re ok with it because New York doesn’t call it rape.

                  Re-evaluate your yardstick of morality my guy, holy shit.

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                    Using the same definitions. Biden raped tara reade.

                    So either way we end up with a rapist in the White House.

                    So check your yard stick as well. Morally I have no issues voting for Trump.