• BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com
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    9 months ago

    In the state of NY which is where it occurred, he was found to have committed an act that is also described by the term “rape”. The only reason his conviction wasn’t for proper rape is because in NY there is a very narrow definition.

    To put it a different way, in many other states committing the same act, would be considered rape.

    State borders do not change the ethics of what he did. He’s a rapist, just not according to the State of New York’s definition.

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      No, he is not a rapist, as he never had sex with that woman, but either way, rape is a crime, and he was not convicted of a crime.

      Maybe you should read the difference between civil court and criminal court.

      It is funny to see the liberals use the terms all wrong while being so confident. Trump was never charged with a crime. It was a civil claim that was hog wash.

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          That is no the conclusion the jury came to in their verdict.

          I am defending logic and facts. It was a civil trial. It can’t determine guilt, only liability.

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            9 months ago

            Keep justifying his actions to yourself to not feel like a trash bag for supporting him:

            “The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ” Kaplan wrote.

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              Which clearly is saying he didn’t criminally rape her. I mean how silly is that? A court saying since it didn’t meet the legal standard, we are going to say it anyways. lol

              Clown world.

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                We’re going in circles. In other words you’re completely fine supporting a Presidential Candidate who commits rape, as long as the state they do it in makes it hard to legally call it rape.

                You can’t argue he didn’t do it either, because he was already found to have committed the act itself, so at best you’re supporting a guy who openly sexually assaults women and you’re ok with it because New York doesn’t call it rape.

                Re-evaluate your yardstick of morality my guy, holy shit.

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                  9 months ago

                  Using the same definitions. Biden raped tara reade.

                  So either way we end up with a rapist in the White House.

                  So check your yard stick as well. Morally I have no issues voting for Trump.

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                    Using the same definitions. Biden raped Tara reade.

                    You mean the same Tara Reade that defected to Russia last year and has more recently praised Biden? The same Tara Reade that was found to have been changing her story based on who she was talking to and willfully refused to press charges just before defecting to Russia? THAT Tara Reade?

                    For the record if Biden did anything like that and was found to have committed the act, regardless of whether it qualified as rape in the state of New York, that would be a 1000% pass on voting for him, which I already don’t want to do.

                    The difference between what Tara claims and what E. Carroll claims is one went to court, the other tried to make it a national spectacle in an election year, and fled to Russia when that failed. She’s still welcome to come back and take this to court.

                    So either way we end up with a rapist in the White House.

                    Unclear until Tara Reade’s accusation goes through due process, which is so important to you that means Biden is innocent until found guilty. Trump was found guilty of the accused act. The state’s definition of rape doesn’t make him any less guilty of the act itself.

                    So check your yard stick as well.

                    I just did. See above. Fuck anyone that does anything so fucking disgusting, but one was found to have done it and the other wasn’t. One of these things is not like the other. The second Biden is found to have done this by a jury like Trump was, I will agree with you that they’re both rapists.

                    Which itself is no reason to continue voting for either of them, so the fact that you still don’t care that Trump did it but think you have an argument that Biden did it even though he was never even charged with it, shows me you’re not arguing in good faith.

                    You will agree with anything trump says, always, no matter what anyone here tells you, pussy grabbing be damned.

                    Would you be ok with Trump doing what he did to Carroll to your daughter? What about Biden? What if NY says it’s ok because that wasn’t rape. Would you be ok with it then?

                    Morally I have no issues voting for Trump.

                    I can tell, and this is why I advised you to revisit your yardstick of morality. My identity is not tied up enough in Biden to defend him if he’s found to have been guilty of this act. You’re ok with Trump as president in spite of it because your identity is that tied to him.