I was in Europe on their rail and we rode from Switzerland to Rome in a day. Albeit a bit long, 8 hours, but when we got off we realized that entire trip was the same distance as Denver to Seattle, a flight we frequently take.
Flying takes us about 3.5 hours plus security, waiting, travel to and from the airport. Plus then sitting on a cramped plane with very little service.
I wish I could take 2 more hours and have an enjoyable ride like the rail they have over there.
I was figuring 8 hours to be a bit long and i just checked: all connections from zurich to rome go via the gotthard scenic route, and not through the tunnel. I thought the gotthard was open again for passenger rail after the big derailment they had, apparently not. While the scenic route is very nice indeed, the tunnel could shave off a solid hour of travel time.
ZRH-FCO: 430 mi / 1:30 by air, 540 mi / 8h by car
SEA-DEN: 1024 / 2:45 mi by air, 1300 / 20h by car
So I wouldn’t say it’s the same. And Switzerland-Milan is annoyingly slow (Milan-Rome is 300 mi in 3h, Milan-Zurich is 130 mi in 4h; the whole trip should be <5.)
I was in Europe on their rail and we rode from Switzerland to Rome in a day. Albeit a bit long, 8 hours, but when we got off we realized that entire trip was the same distance as Denver to Seattle, a flight we frequently take.
Flying takes us about 3.5 hours plus security, waiting, travel to and from the airport. Plus then sitting on a cramped plane with very little service.
I wish I could take 2 more hours and have an enjoyable ride like the rail they have over there.
I was figuring 8 hours to be a bit long and i just checked: all connections from zurich to rome go via the gotthard scenic route, and not through the tunnel. I thought the gotthard was open again for passenger rail after the big derailment they had, apparently not. While the scenic route is very nice indeed, the tunnel could shave off a solid hour of travel time.
@scrubbles @Rentlar Just did 2 and a bit weeks in Switzerland and Italy. Exclusively used rail. It’s amazing - and cheap (especially in Italy)
@scrubbles @Rentlar
ZRH-FCO: 430 mi / 1:30 by air, 540 mi / 8h by car
SEA-DEN: 1024 / 2:45 mi by air, 1300 / 20h by car
So I wouldn’t say it’s the same. And Switzerland-Milan is annoyingly slow (Milan-Rome is 300 mi in 3h, Milan-Zurich is 130 mi in 4h; the whole trip should be <5.)
@scrubbles @Rentlar There’s really nowhere with continual 1000 mile as the crow flies HSR in the world aside from China maybe?
DEN-SEA HSR would have little in the way of secondary markets. Boise and SLC I guess.