Edit:

I turned off my wifi card, and now it launches immediately. Of course, what is a browser with no internet. But I guess there’s something about the network I moved to thats causing the delay. I’ll try a different network tomorrow and update for science

OG post: This applies to librewolf and firefox flatpaks. Just to preface, I’ve been using these flatpaks for years and never experienced anything like this.

This morning I did my business as normal with no issues. I usually open and close firefox alot and it takes maybe 10-30 seconds to start.

Then I shutdown for awhile. Came back and fired up firefox… nothing happened. The process is not using any cpu, it just sits. I kill the process and try again nothing changes. After 3-5 minutes, the window finally pops up.

My system installation of firefox works fine. So does the flatpaks for qutebrowser and tor browser. I ran flatpak repair and reinstalled them. Nothing has changed.

I didn’t make any changes to my system. There were no significant updates. I have no idea why this started.

If anybody has any tips on troubleshooting this, I would appreciate it.

Btw I’m on fedora39, and I’ve tested this on sway, gnome, hyprland, and gnome on xorg.

  • rtxn@lemmy.worldEnglish
    29·
    9 months ago

    It usually does that for me when the XDG Desktop Portal borks. Run it from a terminal (flatpak run) and see if it complains about not being able to find a “settings” portal. You can also try to restart the xdg-desktop-portal.service user unit.

    No joke, XDP has been so fucky on Hyprland, I have a keybinding to restart it.

    • somethingsomethingidk@lemmy.worldOP
      3·
      9 months ago

      I tried restarting portal, didn’t work. systemctl status for xdp did show an error for hyprland about a config file. But I’m running on sway mainly. I just tried out different DE’s to see if anything changed.

      Here’s flatpak output

      flatpak run --verbose io.gitlab.librewolf-community
F: No installations directory in /etc/flatpak/installations.d. Skipping
F: Opening system flatpak installation at path /var/lib/flatpak
F: Opening user flatpak installation at path /home/auser/.local/share/flatpak
F: Opening user flatpak installation at path /home/auser/.local/share/flatpak
F: Opening user flatpak installation at path /home/auser/.local/share/flatpak
F: /home/auser/.local/share/flatpak/runtime/org.freedesktop.Platform/x86_64/23.08/329ad0f04e21dc3234accff013641299e13a9eb2f1b2908129692b4755393789/files/lib32 does not exist
F: Cleaning up unused container id 75319174
F: Cleaning up per-app-ID state for io.gitlab.librewolf-community
F: Allocated instance id 821024549
F: Add defaults in dir /io/gitlab/librewolf-community/
F: Add locks in dir /io/gitlab/librewolf-community/
F: Allowing dri access
F: Allowing wayland access
F: Allowing pulseaudio access
F: Pulseaudio user configuration file '/home/auser/.config/pulse/client.conf': Error opening file /home/auser/.config/pulse/client.conf: No such file or directory
F: CUPS configuration file '/home/auser/.cups/client.conf': Error opening file /home/auser/.cups/client.conf: No such file or directory
F: Running '/usr/bin/bwrap --args 43 /usr/bin/xdg-dbus-proxy --args=45'
F: Running '/usr/bin/bwrap --args 43 librewolf'
      • rtxn@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        9 months ago

        That’s more or less what mine says. What about journalctl, does it print anything in red?

        • somethingsomethingidk@lemmy.worldOP
          3·
          9 months ago

          Nope it’s all green.

          Idk if you saw my update but turning of the wifi fixes this problem.

          I did move to a new network yesterday, I just didn’t think that could impact the flatpak launch, while not affecting the systems binary launch.

          It’s a real head scratcher

          • rtxn@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            9 months ago

            What brand and model is your wifi card? Linux has always had issues with Broadcom modules, but I don’t know why or how that would affect flatpak. Maybe you can find a relevant permission in Flatseal (like allowing the browser to control the wifi card) and turn it off for Firefox.

            • somethingsomethingidk@lemmy.worldOP
              2·
              9 months ago

              The card is Realtek. I found an askubuntu thread where all flatpak commands were hanging, and their solution was to disable the nic.

              This has only happened on this network. I didnt mention at first because I didnt think it mattered, but I’m visiting someone and moved networks.

              The instant I take the dev down, the browsers pop up. I would bet money that when I go to my home net everything will work.

              The flatseal angle didnt work either. The only reference is names on system bus.

  • ezchili@iusearchlinux.fyi
    7·
    9 months ago

    Sometimes some programs and some downloads have weird slowdowns like this when my VPN is on, even though others remain completely unaffected

  • lemmyvore@feddit.nlEnglish
    5·
    9 months ago

    What version of xdg-desktop-portal-* package do you have installed? If it’s -gnome try replacing it with -gtk, see if that helps.

    • somethingsomethingidk@lemmy.worldOP
      1·
      9 months ago

      The gnome portal is not running. The gtk and wlr portals are, as they have been for months with no issue.

      xdg-desktop-portal-wlr.x86_64 0.7.1-1.fc39
      xdg-desktop-portal-gtk.x86_64 1.15.1-1.fc39

  • Atemu@lemmy.ml
    4·
    9 months ago

    Could you leave journalctl -f running while Firefox is starting? Anything interesting happening right after initiating the start and/or before it actually starts?

    • somethingsomethingidk@lemmy.worldOP
      1·
      9 months ago

      The only thing that came up was some memory allocation/cgroup/.slice stuff for the container.

      I’m not on that network anymore, and the problem is gone. So I cant reproduce.

      Maybe I should have run wireshark?

      • Atemu@lemmy.ml
        1·
        9 months ago

        I mean, you could, sure.

        As a next sensible step though, I’d start firefox from the CLI with more verbose logs enabled.

  • Joe@discuss.tchncs.de
    4·
    9 months ago

    Also a dbus notification daemon (whichever you use) may be having problems. Things hang inexplicably if it’s not running.

  • wingsfortheirsmiles@feddit.ukEnglish
    2·
    9 months ago

    I’m also having this issue on my desktop with Firefox flatpak connected via Ethernet and Librewolf deb on my Surface Pro 8 via WiFi. On the SP8 it opens immediately on disabling WiFi or switching off my VPN which seems bizarre but at least partially lines up with your experience.

    I’m an uninformed casual on Linux but if I can help diagnose/resolve this lmk

    • somethingsomethingidk@lemmy.worldOP
      2·
      9 months ago

      You could try dmesg -w in a terminal before you start firfox and see if any messages come through.

      Can you still access the internet with another program?

      This could be a firefox issue, and not a flatoak issue as I assumed. Do you have another version of firefox on the system? If so what version?

      • wingsfortheirsmiles@feddit.ukEnglish
        1·
        9 months ago

        They all look to be 123.0, though bizarrely the version advertised as flatpak in About Firefox doesn’t pause/delay before opening but the other version does. No messages come through on dmesg -w unfortunately, I’m pretty stumped. The only clue I have is that the version of Librewolf I have on my desktop installed through the Pop Shop doesn’t delay opening but the same version on my SP8 installed through deb does.

        Ultimately it does point towards FF in show way?

  • Pantherina@feddit.de
    21·
    9 months ago

    Install perf and use the app hotspot or just perf itself to run the command and see what happens

  • Possibly linux@lemmy.zipEnglish
    1·
    9 months ago

    I noticed that as well. I don’t know why and it seems very random. It happened on my virtual computer with a AMD GPU but my laptop seems unaffected.

  • Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee
    21·
    9 months ago

    Good old flatpak. Based on this you can expect it to take roughly thirty thousand years next time you need to restore a system backup.

  • Suspiciousbrowsing@kbin.melroy.org
    78·
    9 months ago

    I’ve been considering switching to Linux, but did you say Firefox takes 30 seconds to start? Is that standard? Edit: what a strange bunch you are to downvote a random question.