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    Some people, yourself included, have gone overboard on the sensitivity towards bias. You’re at the point that including facts reads to you as bias. It’s always made sense that excluding certain facts can be perceived as a bias, but now you want an “enlightened centrist” media outlet to omit facts to paint the fascists in a better light?

    You’ve gone too far. The truth is Ron is a piece of shit. If speaking that truth is biased, then reality is biased.

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      Some people, yourself included, have gone overboard on the sensitivity towards bias. You’re at the point that including facts reads to you as bias.

      No, I have no problem with the bias. Yes deciding what facts to include is a way bias manifests. Everything has bias.

      I do not have a preference for centrism. I’ve said that this community is an appropriate place for anti-desantis bias.

      Someone asked how is this article biased and I gave an example of how it’s biased and everyone concluded I’m a radical centrist.

      As you or someone else pointed out, a preference for centrism is a bias. I agree, but it’s a less overt bias.

      You’ve gone too far.

      What the fuck, no! Someone asked how this article is biased and I gave an example.

      The truth is Ron is a piece of shit. If speaking that truth is biased, then reality is biased.

      I agree he is a piece of shit, but I don’t think you understand bias.

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        Bias is a preference that inhibits impartial judgement. This means reality cannot be biased. Including facts in and of itself is never biased, only excluding facts can be.

        The true state of things is not a partial interpretation, it’s an impartial one. A preference or inclination does not mean bias. The preference towards resources that agree with a round earth is not bias, that’s a preference towards impartial, reality-based resources.

        You’re conflating inclination with bias. Anytime anything reads as preferring one side over the other, you think it’s biased. Sometimes, some people are wrong. Saying those people are wrong is not a bias, it’s a statement of fact.

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          Including facts in and of itself is never biased, only excluding facts can be.

          I’m not convinced that’s a meaningful distinction for media analysis. Is there resource you could point me to better understand your point? Or some examples that illustrate your point? Eg: how would you go about making this article biased against DeSantis, which facts that were included would exclude to make it biased?

          The true state of things is not a partial interpretation, it’s an impartial one. A preference or inclination does not mean bias.

          Which is exactly why I said you don’t understand bias when you suggested reality might be biased.

          You’re conflating inclination with bias.

          Could you show me where I’ve done this?

          Anytime anything reads as preferring one side over the other, you think it’s biased.

          Could you show me where I’ve done this?