Edit: new and improved image, now with 100% less support! Used my expert photo editing skills to change “supporting” to say “voting for”

  • NaibofTabr@infosec.pubEnglish
    10814·
    11 months ago

    I’m going to copy /u/kiniz0r’s comment from a few months ago because I think it’s extremely perceptive and accurate:

    People have a fucked-up understanding of voting in the US. You are not voting for the person you agree with. You are voting for the person you’d rather negotiate with.

    If you actually care beyond the aesthetics of whether you did the cool thing or not, you have to think about the function of what you’re doing and not just whether it feels good.

    original comment

    Your political choices shouldn’t be performative, they should be as effective as possible in the present.

    You do the best you can with what you have.

    • David_Eight@lemmy.world
      617·
      10 months ago

      My favorite analogy is that voting is like taking the bus, just because it doesn’t drop you off in front of your house, doesn’t mean you’re better off walking.

      • NaibofTabr@infosec.pubEnglish
        133·
        10 months ago

        Absolutely, but the negotiation also continues after the voting happens, so it’s probably worthwhile to vote for someone who can be negotiated with.

      • go_go_gadget@lemmy.world
        116·
        10 months ago

        No no, see the best time to negotiate is after you’ve already given someone everything they want from you. This totally isn’t a textbook recipe for being taken advantage of. /s

    • jaemo@sh.itjust.works
      74·
      10 months ago

      A most poignant and apt critique.

      I have observed that a lot of us treat the enormous good luck of democratic participation as a team sport, and it’s depressing.

    • LillyPip
      3·
      10 months ago

      I’ve talked to a bunch of people who were barely of voting age in 2016 and who treated their first voting experience as an edgy popularity contest, who didn’t think about anything other than the presidential race.

      Then Roe was overturned and they were like ‘Ohhh. I get it now.’ And then it was too late.

      I also hear from people who are just coming into voting age saying similar things. Biden isn’t doing enough about Isreal (as if he has the power to unilaterally stop the fighting), and they seem completely unaware that Congress, not the president, controls most things. This is not (yet) a dictatorship.

      But they’re planning to vote like it’s a horse race. Sorry Buttercup, but that’s not how this works. Biden is at least sane. The entire right is not. Please for the love of humanity, please don’t lock us into fascism because you think Biden is too old or whatever. I agree, we should have better candidates – nobody seems to be mentioning that trump is only 3 years younger than Biden, which at their age is nothing – the fact is these are the two we will be choosing from. There is no third option in this system, and no amount of protest votes will change that. It’s just a fact.

      I would vote for Biden’s corpse before trump and the fascism he openly calls for. If you wouldn’t, you need to learn more about this system and processes before casting your vote. It shouldn’t even be a question.

    • A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.worldEnglish
      31·
      10 months ago

      The bigger issue is the whole system behind voting, not the symptoms that we call our candidates.

      • NaibofTabr@infosec.pubEnglish
        4·
        10 months ago

        Oh yes, well another commenter already put out the recommendation for ranked choice voting which would be a great improvement over our current first-past-the-post system.

        I’m really not sure how we even start getting such a change implemented though.