There’s “no consistent association” between police funding and crime rates across the country, according to a published study by University of Toronto researchers.

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    10 months ago

    It seems like you maybe thinking this is saying police do nothing, it isn’t.

    No consistent association means the data doesn’t back up higher or lower funding having an impact on crime. It doesn’t say anything about rates when the funding is zero or when funding is very high.

    I think it means can’t pay to reduce crime, or not pay and expect crime to go up.

    Testing for zero would be extremely difficult, because we only have one Toronto sized city in Canada.

    I’m guessing here but I suspect that there’s a significant number of places with zero police presence that have very little crime. And this article suggests that there are very well funded police presences where crime still happens.

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      No consistent association means the data doesn’t back up higher or lower funding having an impact on crime. It doesn’t say anything about rates when the funding is zero or when funding is very high.

      Is “zero” not “lower”?

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        If there’s no zero in the dataset, then we don’t have any zero about data. It could be, for instance, that some police have a large effect, but that you hit diminishing returns incredibly quickly.

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          10 months ago

          That’s literally what I said elsewhere in this thread. People are putting words in my mouth all over this thread but literally all I was saying is that it’s impossible that the headline is true verbatim.

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            10 months ago

            How so? The study showed no consistent association between funding and crime rates. That is true verbatim.

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        Skim the article, it’s 20 large municipality’s, nowhere is 0 mentioned