Country that lands on moon first will be able to set precedent for whether later lunar activities are open or restricted, says House space panel chair.
Your claim is that China is just as ill-intentioned. It’s not whataboutism to point out how that statement is wrong, because you brought that statement up yourself.
It is, because China also has many things we can point to, which you don’t even mention. I already acknowledged the US’s imperialist actions, there was no need to elaborate on it, that isn’t disproving me. If you were discussing in good faith, there would be no need to further elaborate on an agreed fact. The burden is on you to prove to me that China is not like that.
You made the claim, the burden of proof is on you. It’s a bit harder because I’ve already provided counterarguments, but here’s another one for good measure:
There are 25000 mosques in Xinjiang, one for every 500 Muslims. In comparison, there are 3000 mosques in the entire US.
But I’ll clarify something with this statement just to elucidate your not so clever attempt at misinformation.
There is a way larger population in china (25m China vs 3.5m US)
Per-capita, there is greater capacity for Muslims in the United States to attend a mosque (1150 US vs 1000 China)
This is not a substantive example of anything we’re talking about since it doesn’t acknowledge the extent of freedoms or treatment of the Muslim populations in the respective countries. We could talk at length about the active genocide of the Uygher population in China, but I’m sure you have “reasonable explanations” for that, just as many Americans have “reasonable explanations” for their active support of Israel’s actions on the Palestinian people.
Let’s just accept that both nations are pretty messed up. We don’t need to do a “who’s worse”. But these bad faith arguments are just intellectually a waste of time.
Mostly it’s people in imperialist/neocolonialist countries who think China is imperialist/neocolonialist. It’s not a popular opinion in Global South countries.
That’s just terribly false. All we have to do is spend 10 minutes looking at China’s official statements towards some of their active international intentions to see proof otherwise. This comment will likely be deleted because it doesn’t follow your narrative (just like my previous), but your statements aren’t convincing anyone.
Are these the same global south countries that China is building things at prices they know they can’t pay back so that they can seize them later or the China that is currently trying to take over huge parts of the ocean that belong to others under international law?
Typical projection. China is not charging the usury rates & terms that the IMF and World Bank famously do in order to put Global South countries into debt traps. And they’re not creating 800+ extraterritorial military bases to enforce them like the US has.
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Is China shipping billions of dollars in weapons to Israel as they, in 3 months, have dwarfed Ukrainian civilian casualties over 2 years? No? Well…
Did China instigate a coup of Pakistan’s democratically-elected leader? No?
Is China the only country voting against the Right to Food pursuant to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (Article 25)? No?
Hm.
Oh look! Whataboutisms! Even when called out directly… It’s laughable
Just for posterity’s sake, my previous comment
Your claim is that China is just as ill-intentioned. It’s not whataboutism to point out how that statement is wrong, because you brought that statement up yourself.
It is, because China also has many things we can point to, which you don’t even mention. I already acknowledged the US’s imperialist actions, there was no need to elaborate on it, that isn’t disproving me. If you were discussing in good faith, there would be no need to further elaborate on an agreed fact. The burden is on you to prove to me that China is not like that.
You made the claim, the burden of proof is on you. It’s a bit harder because I’ve already provided counterarguments, but here’s another one for good measure:
There are 25000 mosques in Xinjiang, one for every 500 Muslims. In comparison, there are 3000 mosques in the entire US.
I’m not going to engage in bad faith arguments.
But I’ll clarify something with this statement just to elucidate your not so clever attempt at misinformation.
Let’s just accept that both nations are pretty messed up. We don’t need to do a “who’s worse”. But these bad faith arguments are just intellectually a waste of time.
The US Census says 4.5m in the US, but go off.
Even Atlanticists admit that China has brought ~800 million people out of poverty.
Mostly it’s people in imperialist/neocolonialist countries who think China is imperialist/neocolonialist. It’s not a popular opinion in Global South countries.
That’s just terribly false. All we have to do is spend 10 minutes looking at China’s official statements towards some of their active international intentions to see proof otherwise. This comment will likely be deleted because it doesn’t follow your narrative (just like my previous), but your statements aren’t convincing anyone.
Are these the same global south countries that China is building things at prices they know they can’t pay back so that they can seize them later or the China that is currently trying to take over huge parts of the ocean that belong to others under international law?
Typical projection. China is not charging the usury rates & terms that the IMF and World Bank famously do in order to put Global South countries into debt traps. And they’re not creating 800+ extraterritorial military bases to enforce them like the US has.
What does that have to do with them trying to steal other peoples part of the ocean
You mean the parts of the ocean called the East China Sea and the South China Sea? 🤣
Foreign Policy: Surrounded: How the U.S. Is Encircling China with Military Bases
And that article is a decade old: it’s only gotten worse.
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