• kromem@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      It’s not whataboutism, it’s the context for the article you are pushing.

      It’d be like saying “Russian forces gassed to death over a hundred of their own citizens in a theater.” If someone points out that there were terrorists who had taken the citizens in the theater hostage, that’s not whataboutism, it’s extremely relevant context.

      Yes, Israeli operations in response to the terrorist attack ended up killing some of their own citizens, and there’s a legitimate story to discuss in that.

      But they didn’t just do that for shits and giggles out of the blue. They were responding to a well documented terrorist attack at the same time that killed a whole lot more Israelis.

      Pointing that out isn’t whataboutism, it’s context. And at this point ‘whataboutism’ has lost all its meaning due to overuse by small minded propagandists on both sides who think it’s a magic word capable of invalidating valid criticisms which add relevant context.

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        10 months ago

        More whataboutism to support whataboutism. Classic Zionist bullshit.

        It’s unacceptable when tankies do it, and it’s unacceptable when Zionists do it.

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          10 months ago

          Im literally answering the first phrase of the article.

          “New evidence points to Israeli security forces, not Hamas, for causing the most fatalities at the music festival”

          No, most of the dead at nova were killed by Palestinians who proudly filmed themselves doing it. There are hundreds of videos like these showing hundreds of Israelis slaughtered by, again, PALESTINIANS. Hundreds of dead Israelis who represent the vast majority of dead at nova.

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              10 months ago

              Yea ive seen a lot of them live on oct 7 as they were posted proudly by Palestinians on telegram. And the days later of videos found on gopros strapped on Palestinians proudly filming what they did.

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                10 months ago

                So you’ve quantified it, right? If you’re claiming Hamas caused more civilian casualties than the IDF, surely you can back this up with numbers?