Always has been. Nobody was saying “okay boomer” to senior citizens. It was always to Gen X and now it’s being applied to Millennials. If you have songs on your playlist from the 2000s and don’t watch tiktoks, you’ve become a boomer.
Yeah it was originally shit like “you sound like a 60 year old trump supporter who hasn’t gotten with the times”. It was “I’m not going to bother fighting with you, so I’m going to treat you like the uncle i only deal with on thanksgiving”
No they don’t have to be older. If I had a friend who was a year older than me and I said “battle passes, looter shooters, and tik tok are dumb” he could call me a total boomer.
It’s about someone harnessing an older perspective.
Funny, are you being prejudiced against people who use boomer and Karen and clumping them all together…?
That’s mighty bigot and hypocritical of you.
Context matters, if someone uses the term correctly and not prejudiced against an entire group, why shouldn’t that be allowed? There goes supporting my drag queen friend and gay associates I guess, can’t call them gay apparently.
Few issues with that. And let me preface all of this with: I do think “boomer” is a shit insult but I also don’t care since baby boomers can fuck right off for all they have done to humanity.
The use of the term as a derogatory one IS prejudice. If saying “Boomer” was not a negative term, it wouldn’t be used. Not sure what the equivalent to godwin’s law is, but it is comparable to the people who insist the n-word isn’t about black people and is only about the black people who are acting like n-words.
Also: “Karen” actually IS a rather problematic term with a lot of roots in misogyny. It very much is built around the idea that women shouldn’t complain and when they do they are just being contrary/annoying/nagging and so forth. I don’t think everyone who uses the term is a misogynist, but they are making the world a shittier place.
Also “Karen” in particular REALLY fucking sucks if that is your name.
The word has a definition. Its defined meaning of ‘born during this era’ is the only none bigoted means of use. Example of another word which is often used as a bigoted insult: “The plant’s growth was retarded by the lack of Sun light.” See if you can pick out the word so you can defend its use as an insult simply because it is in line with your bigotry.
That’s not what they said though. They were clearly meaning that tone and context are the difference between “my sister is gay” [neutral], “my sister is gay” [negative], and even “my sister is gay” [positive].
“The wedding i went to last weekend was gay” could mean two people of the same gender got married or it could mean that someone is mad that a man dressed nice and was involved in the planning of his wedding and you can usually tell based on tone.
I think you’re misinterpreting their point. Saying someone is gay isn’t an insult unless you mean it to be.
If you say that your homosexual friend is gay, that’s not bigotry. Because well they are gay, plus there’s nothing wrong with being gay. But if you say someone is gay just because they do something you dislike that is. Because you’ve used it as a negative term.
A: Bigotry is always wrong and we are expected to try to improve ourselves.
B: Some folk’s mileage may vary.
C: Some feel it is OK because they shall suffer no significant push back. Exactly like certain folks that mispronounced the name of a certain country in West Africa and applied to anyone visually similar in tone to the folks that were provided “Involuntary Lifelong Unpaid Internships” from said country, felt fine using it.
Edit: because the other guy is being a tool, I’m changing my example.
Let’s put it this way: Can I say “my cousin is gay”? Or is that offensive? Keep in mind he is a man with a husband, they are both homosexual or whatever term you want to use because apparently I can’t describe them as “gay.”
The insult is that you have a word with a definition which you are using as an insult. It is insulting to the demographic age group since you intend it as an insult. By the very definition of the word insult, the folks in the proper definition must be in some way offensive/inferior/bad. Otherwise it wouldn’t be an insult to use. Should be fairly obvious to anyone whose English isn’t retarded through lack of Education.
Should be fairly obvious to anyone whose English isn’t retarded through lack of Education.
Using that language as a joke/trap is pretty fucked. You absolutely forced that usage and you know it just so you could hide behind “LOL TRICKED YOUUU here’s the meaning I meant.”
No it was definitely to Baby Boomers, then it morphed into an insult that you direct at anybody acting like a boomer/giving off Boomer energy (hence calling Gen X/Millenials/any non-boomer out with “ok boomer”)
Always has been. Nobody was saying “okay boomer” to senior citizens. It was always to Gen X and now it’s being applied to Millennials. If you have songs on your playlist from the 2000s and don’t watch tiktoks, you’ve become a boomer.
Okay boomer was an insult for the baby boomer generation, now it’s being used for anyone older. Both are acceptable.
Yeah it was originally shit like “you sound like a 60 year old trump supporter who hasn’t gotten with the times”. It was “I’m not going to bother fighting with you, so I’m going to treat you like the uncle i only deal with on thanksgiving”
Just before okay boomer caught in “shut up boomer” was a bit of a thing.
Ah, so it means anyone who you disagree with who happens to be a few years older than you… So it’s pointless?
No they don’t have to be older. If I had a friend who was a year older than me and I said “battle passes, looter shooters, and tik tok are dumb” he could call me a total boomer.
It’s about someone harnessing an older perspective.
Sounds like it’s just become a synonym for a curmudgeon.
Or neither are, depending upon your view of bigotry.
Bigotry requires prejudice, boomers aren’t clumped together, just called out when the situation requires it.
Calling someone a Karen isn’t bigotry so why would boomer?
, said every “I don’t see color” White Nationalist I’ve ever met.
Funny, are you being prejudiced against people who use boomer and Karen and clumping them all together…?
That’s mighty bigot and hypocritical of you.
Context matters, if someone uses the term correctly and not prejudiced against an entire group, why shouldn’t that be allowed? There goes supporting my drag queen friend and gay associates I guess, can’t call them gay apparently.
Few issues with that. And let me preface all of this with: I do think “boomer” is a shit insult but I also don’t care since baby boomers can fuck right off for all they have done to humanity.
The use of the term as a derogatory one IS prejudice. If saying “Boomer” was not a negative term, it wouldn’t be used. Not sure what the equivalent to godwin’s law is, but it is comparable to the people who insist the n-word isn’t about black people and is only about the black people who are acting like n-words.
Also: “Karen” actually IS a rather problematic term with a lot of roots in misogyny. It very much is built around the idea that women shouldn’t complain and when they do they are just being contrary/annoying/nagging and so forth. I don’t think everyone who uses the term is a misogynist, but they are making the world a shittier place.
Also “Karen” in particular REALLY fucking sucks if that is your name.
Yes some people use the terms as bigotry that happens with everything and shouldn’t be a reason to not use it.
Calling someone gay isn’t instantly bigotry. Context and tone* matters, and yes unfortunately in text tone doesn’t come across, but we do get context.
The word has a definition. Its defined meaning of ‘born during this era’ is the only none bigoted means of use. Example of another word which is often used as a bigoted insult: “The plant’s growth was retarded by the lack of Sun light.” See if you can pick out the word so you can defend its use as an insult simply because it is in line with your bigotry.
The word has many definitions, just like retard has multiple definitions. The context they are used changes them making them okay or not.
You’re clumping me together with people who use it incorrectly, you need a mirror to look in to see the bigot in this exchange.
… I did not have “And it is okay when I insult someone by calling them ‘gay’ depending on the context” on my bingo card for this thread.
Holy fuck
That’s not what they said though. They were clearly meaning that tone and context are the difference between “my sister is gay” [neutral], “my sister is gay” [negative], and even “my sister is gay” [positive].
“The wedding i went to last weekend was gay” could mean two people of the same gender got married or it could mean that someone is mad that a man dressed nice and was involved in the planning of his wedding and you can usually tell based on tone.
I think you’re misinterpreting their point. Saying someone is gay isn’t an insult unless you mean it to be.
If you say that your homosexual friend is gay, that’s not bigotry. Because well they are gay, plus there’s nothing wrong with being gay. But if you say someone is gay just because they do something you dislike that is. Because you’ve used it as a negative term.
Who said insulting? My friend is trying out for drag race so I’m supporting them.
You’re being the bigot here.
A: Bigotry is always wrong and we are expected to try to improve ourselves.
B: Some folk’s mileage may vary.
C: Some feel it is OK because they shall suffer no significant push back. Exactly like certain folks that mispronounced the name of a certain country in West Africa and applied to anyone visually similar in tone to the folks that were provided “Involuntary Lifelong Unpaid Internships” from said country, felt fine using it.
Edit: because the other guy is being a tool, I’m changing my example.
Let’s put it this way: Can I say “my cousin is gay”? Or is that offensive? Keep in mind he is a man with a husband, they are both homosexual or whatever term you want to use because apparently I can’t describe them as “gay.”
‘I have a Black friend’ achievement unlocked.
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Are you actually saying Karen is worse than boomer?
And you think Karen is misogynistic it boomer isn’t ageist?
Like neither is actually bad, but Karen is the most mid shit ever.
The insult is that you have a word with a definition which you are using as an insult. It is insulting to the demographic age group since you intend it as an insult. By the very definition of the word insult, the folks in the proper definition must be in some way offensive/inferior/bad. Otherwise it wouldn’t be an insult to use. Should be fairly obvious to anyone whose English isn’t retarded through lack of Education.
Using that language as a joke/trap is pretty fucked. You absolutely forced that usage and you know it just so you could hide behind “LOL TRICKED YOUUU here’s the meaning I meant.”
Practice what you preach.
Yup. Karen is as much a bigoted insult as boomer.
You think we were saying “okay boomers” to people barely a few years older than us?
It was always about baby boomers, the entitled generation.
That is exactly who we were saying “OK boomer” to: Baby Boomers.
No it was definitely to Baby Boomers, then it morphed into an insult that you direct at anybody acting like a boomer/giving off Boomer energy (hence calling Gen X/Millenials/any non-boomer out with “ok boomer”)