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Lucid’s $50,000 Tesla Challenger Under Development, CEO Suggests::Lucid CEO Peter Rawlinson said the company’s next model line-up will target a mass-market family car segment.
50k is not mass market.
Exactly.
We don’t need 50K “challengers” to Tesla.
We need 20K challengers that real peoole might be able to afford.
Can you even buy a new ICE car for $20.000? Last time I was looking for a car a 5 year old Citroen berlingo cost around that. What can you get for 20.000? A basic Toyota yaris? Hybrid yaris costs <30k but I feel like when Americans say they want $20.000 electric car they mean electric SUV with 600km range. Yeah, that’s not happening.
Mass market options exist, but everyone laughs at Leafs and Bolts.
20k and look like actual cars (sedans). The bubbly, hatchback-like design of most EVs are ugly AF.
Who cares?! Affordable, Safe, Enough range, Enough space, Comfy.
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There are plenty of cars coming out of China at that price point. With decent range figures too.
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That doesn’t stop them from existing, or being highly competitive. It’s up to western and Japanese car makers to compete rather than pretend it’s not happening.
The cars also pass NCAP/ANCAP testing with 5 stars.
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You don’t have to like them, but explain to me how it’s a ‘deathtrap’ if it passes the same safety standards as a car produced anywhere else. A 5 star NCAP car doesn’t become less safe just because it’s Chinese.
6 of the top 10 safest cars tested in 2023 are from Chinese automakers.
They are producing and exporting safe and affordable electric vehicles and they’re seeing great success in Europe and Oceania. Tarrifs are the only thing protecting the US auto market from similar inroads.
Not gonna happen until battery prices come wayyyy down.
One would expect increasing the number of cars sold should drive economies of scale nine manufacturing.
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Presumably increasing demand should lead to ramping up of production over time, as it has in the past for pretty much everything
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Things that happen over time need a starting point.
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Well you said tesla is the only one that can do it,and they are not, I reckon they are the one of the companies that can’t do it because they need big margins to expand
Also
17.5k pounds
https://heycar.com/uk/blog/n2022-dacia-spring-electric--price--specs-and-relea
Citroen ec3
21K pounds
https://ev-database.org/uk/car/2039/Citroen-e-C3#
Tesla is about to have a bad time
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No, mate the big automakers will take the market from tesla, VW group, Stellantis, Hyundai group
Not to mention the chinese, teslas market share has already stalled
Hyundai is working on it
https://www.teslarati.com/hyundai-20000-minicar-electric-vehicle-europe/amp/
I am guessing it will be more of a i10 or i20 sized car
Cheapest tesla is 50k so target price is right
Cheapest Tesla is the base Model 3 at 39k.
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Does that have autopilot or FSD?
It has traffic aware cruise control that keeps the car in the same lane but FSD is a 10k upgrade.
It’s down from the $15k price tag to just $12k!
But for $10k* I’ll let my 9-year-old nephew chauffeur you who probably drives just as well.
*) booster seat included!
Mass market means mass production. Have they proven capable of that yet?
Didn’t they go bankrupt?
Bankrupt doesn’t always mean done. It sometimes means financial reorganization.
Fisker did, but they’re back anyway.
No, it didn’t go bankrupt. It’s trading as LCID on Nasdaq.
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