Lucid’s $50,000 Tesla Challenger Under Development, CEO Suggests::Lucid CEO Peter Rawlinson said the company’s next model line-up will target a mass-market family car segment.

  • kent_eh
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    54
    ·
    7 months ago

    Exactly.

    We don’t need 50K “challengers” to Tesla.

    We need 20K challengers that real peoole might be able to afford.

    • ExLisper@linux.community
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      7 months ago

      Can you even buy a new ICE car for $20.000? Last time I was looking for a car a 5 year old Citroen berlingo cost around that. What can you get for 20.000? A basic Toyota yaris? Hybrid yaris costs <30k but I feel like when Americans say they want $20.000 electric car they mean electric SUV with 600km range. Yeah, that’s not happening.

    • squirrelwithnut@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      edit-2
      7 months ago

      20k and look like actual cars (sedans). The bubbly, hatchback-like design of most EVs are ugly AF.

      • Tosti@feddit.nl
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        17
        arrow-down
        5
        ·
        7 months ago

        Who cares?! Affordable, Safe, Enough range, Enough space, Comfy.

    • helenslunch@feddit.nl
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      7 months ago

      Not gonna happen until battery prices come wayyyy down.

      Tesla is the only one that could do it but they won’t. Too much demand.

      • Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        7 months ago

        There are plenty of cars coming out of China at that price point. With decent range figures too.

          • Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            6 months ago

            That doesn’t stop them from existing, or being highly competitive. It’s up to western and Japanese car makers to compete rather than pretend it’s not happening.

            The cars also pass NCAP/ANCAP testing with 5 stars.

            • helenslunch@feddit.nl
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              6 months ago

              That doesn’t stop them from existing

              …what? Why would you even say that? Of course they “exist” but they don’t have to meet any of the safety or labor regulations they do in the US.

              But by all means if you want to further exploit cheap labor and drive a deathtrap, move to China.

              • Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                6 months ago

                You don’t have to like them, but explain to me how it’s a ‘deathtrap’ if it passes the same safety standards as a car produced anywhere else. A 5 star NCAP car doesn’t become less safe just because it’s Chinese.

                6 of the top 10 safest cars tested in 2023 are from Chinese automakers.

                They are producing and exporting safe and affordable electric vehicles and they’re seeing great success in Europe and Oceania. Tarrifs are the only thing protecting the US auto market from similar inroads.

                • helenslunch@feddit.nl
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  6 months ago

                  They are producing and exporting safe and affordable electric vehicles and they’re seeing great success in Europe

                  1. Let’s see it

                  2. Add another $5-10k to that to ship them to the other side of the planet.

      • kent_eh
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        7 months ago

        Not gonna happen until battery prices come wayyyy down.

        One would expect increasing the number of cars sold should drive economies of scale nine manufacturing.

        • helenslunch@feddit.nl
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          6 months ago

          To an extent, yes. But at this point there’s a production shortage and they can’t even make enough as it is. So it would actually cost MORE money to increase supply.

          • kent_eh
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            6 months ago

            Presumably increasing demand should lead to ramping up of production over time, as it has in the past for pretty much everything

          • nave@lemmy.zip
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            7 months ago

            It has traffic aware cruise control that keeps the car in the same lane but FSD is a 10k upgrade.

            • poopkins@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              7 months ago

              It’s down from the $15k price tag to just $12k!

              But for $10k* I’ll let my 9-year-old nephew chauffeur you who probably drives just as well.
              *) booster seat included!