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Thank god I saw this. I vehemently dislike the idea of paying VPNs.
I forgot proxies existed for some reason; I used them in the past.
Thank god I saw this. I vehemently dislike the idea of paying VPNs.
I forgot proxies existed for some reason; I used them in the past.
No, it’s the only thing you think it’s useful for because you don’t realize how many other uses a VPN has. Tons of people play videogames like GTA: Online and use a VPN to avoid potentially being doxxed by some script kiddy with a mod menu.
This article IMO is clickbaity and just relies on the author being wilfully ignorant and… like… needlessly smug/hostile?
Tons of people use VPNs for region restricted services like Netflix, Hulu, etc. Did the author of this post just somehow forget about that?
IMO, this post (by jopie, not you) was just written by someone who seems more interested in flexing their knowledge on why VPNs can be useless, instead of genuinely trying to understand why for many people using a VPN does make sense.
The reality is, if some regular person just wants to torrent stuff, or watch content on Netflix/Hulu, or play GTA without having to worry about some kid trying to dox/DDoS them, a VPN makes absolute sense.
This is the classic IT guy post (jopie’s post) and it’s actually kind of funny. So painfully out of touch with the average user. It’s like guys in the lockpicking who think it’s super insightful to say “A lock does no more than keep an honest man, honest” when in reality if they knew anything about how things work IRL, deterrents can and absolutely do work. I’m sure the lockpicking lawyer can pick just about any padlock I have, but most thieves aren’t the lockpicking lawyer so theory doesn’t exactly equate to reality.
If I were a media corporation, I would make a post like this to dissuade people from using a VPN so that things like torrenting becomes a pain in the ass until they switch to Disney+/Netflix/Apple Music. I’m just sayin
Why not just use a proxy server?
How is the article clickbait? (It goes against the status quo.) How is the author ignorant?
What if the VPN service logs the activity? Then copyright holders can still interrogate you, just through your VPN instead of your ISP.
How do you confirm that the VPN service does not log your activity? It would be difficult to prove the lack of logging.
The person could have a higher attack vector than just using their IP; it’d make more sense to use a proxy than a VPN. (Virtual Private Network.)
Great question. I’ll just tell my friends to use a proxy server instead of their VPN so they can go on Netflix/Hulu or torrent stuff.
Then when they roll their eyes and ask "what the hell is a proxy server?", I’ll waste a bunch of time telling them what a proxy server is and how to set one up, only for 95% of them to ultimately say “ah that’s okay I’ll just use my VPN”. The other 5% will try to set up a proxy server, understandably run into some issue, then go back to their VPN.
Because it’s a painfully one sided critique of why using a VPN is useless, that makes near zero genuine effort to honestly explore the reasons why most people use a VPN instead of creating their own proxy server.
Most VPNs aren’t going to forward scary copyright holders’ letters to their customers/users. Most ISPs will forward those scary letters to the users or worse, someone else who is paying the bill (i.e. a landlord). The letters may be meaningless at the end of the day but the reality is they work as a scare tactic.
Irrelevant, as this isn’t about logging-- it’s about not receiving threatening emails from copyright holders from your ISP.
Here I’ll tell you what-- I get the feeling my counterpoints won’t change your mind so you go tell your friends who use a VPN to access Netflix/Hulu/torrent sites, to stop using their VPN and use a proxy server instead. See how that goes and report back.
I was going to criticize your choice of units there, but after thinking about it some I decided this was probably correct and that my criticisms were in the wrong. Touche, you win again.
There’s no need. They’re using one of a half-dozen obscure commercial services that mapped out all the exit point IP addresses and have blocked them half a decade ago.
Not true. There’s plenty of VPNs that have IP addresses that aren’t blocked by streaming services. The one I use has plenty that still work with Netflix, etc.