Right-Wing Trolls Are Freaking Out After Learning They Can Get Sued for Calling People ‘Groomers’ on the Internet
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New court decision reinforces that there is no public interest in speech that exposes vulnerable groups to hate

Other right-wing accounts variously reacted by describing the move as Orwellian, lamenting the death of free speech and even contemplating leaving Canada for good.

Oh no. Not that. Please no.

<Tee hee!>

  • cygnus
    41·
    6 months ago

    Straw man? This is literally about people being charged for defamation lmao

    • ArbiterXero@lemmy.world
      25·
      6 months ago

      Sure, but that’s not what I said at all.

      People get charged with defamation every day….

      Why make a big fuss out of it? Why big news stories?

      What makes this one special?

      Oh, right, they’re trying to push a censorship bill that forces companies to allow the government to audit your communications.

      This is the 4th time they’ve done the same thing, and I need people to realize that while this case was an absolutely correct ruling, using the EXISTING infrastructure and legal framework to prosecute, we don’t need new tools to destroy privacy.

      Privacy matters.

      • cygnus
        13·
        6 months ago

        So people should be free to break laws so long as they do it anonymously?

        • ArbiterXero@lemmy.world
          21·
          6 months ago

          I was asking why they bothered with the big news story on this particular case of defamation, not suggesting they the behaviour was okay…???

          Did you reply to the wrong thread, or was there a misunderstanding of my comment?

          • cygnus
            31·
            6 months ago

            It’s clearly you who is lost, because you seem unfamiliar with the details of what’s being discussed in this thread.

            1. People post anonymous defamatory comments online
            2. Defamation is a crime in Canada, so they get charged for it
            3. They are astonished to discover that breaking the law has consequences
            4. You come in here commenting that this is a violation of their privacy, as though privacy were some kind of get out of jail free card
            • ArbiterXero@lemmy.world
              22·
              6 months ago

              Noooope, not at all.

              Please read ANY of my comments.

              I don’t care about this case at all. It’s great, glad they got prosecuted.

              I care about the fact that the government is currently trying to push through a bill invading our privacy to try and “prosecute more of these”

              That’s why the article exists. There are thousands of cases of defamation every day, why care about this one?

              This is all done to try and convince you that new laws are needed, when this case was successfully prosecuted on existing laws.

              The article is rage-bait to get you worked up about this specific case of defamation.

              In this case, privacy was respected and subpoenas were required. They want you amped up to skip that “due process”

              Please re-read before you reply.

              • cygnus
                21·
                6 months ago

                That train of thought doesn’t make sense. “We need to pass this new law because [gestures at this case] existing laws already work”? If anyone were trying to drum up public support, they would want cases where people got away with it, and this ain’t it.

                I might also add that if everyone is misunderstanding what you’re trying to say here, you’re either not explaining it very clearly or your theory simply doesn’t stand up.

                • ArbiterXero@lemmy.world
                  22·
                  6 months ago

                  That’s my entire point. Existing laws work.

                  But yet they’ll say “there’s so much of this that we need new laws”

                  In fact if you Google it, they’re trying to push new ones through now. Coincidence? Maybe.

                  So since you’re right, the argument doesn’t make sense, why do you believe that the following proposed laws exist?

                  https://globalnews.ca/news/10178476/liberals-online-harms-bill-not-regulating-speech/

                  • cygnus
                    21·
                    6 months ago

                    Two things can both be true without one being caused by the other.

                    1. Current laws work
                    2. The Liberals are trying to enact laws that excessively curtail privacy, similar to those in the UK

                    This doesn’t mean that 2 is caused by 1 or that they have anything to do with each other at all. Not everything has to play into some grand conspiracy. If anything, this case severely undermines the Liberals’ position.