• mirror_slap@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I interpret the inscription to be paying tribute to the soldiers of the confederacy, essentially traitors. Rip it down, but do it very very carefully. They better be damn sure they’re not going to disturb resting heroes.

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      1 year ago

      The fact that you interpret the monument’s inscription incorrectly does not mean it should be torn down.

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        1 year ago

        The fact that one person read it that way, or as at least ambiguous, actually does support it being torn down. Regardless, it’ll be gone soon.

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          One person misinterpreting something does not set the meaning. Take the song Under the Blade by twisted sister, Tipper Gore on her censorship quest, claimed it was a violent song. In truth she was a pearl clutching idiot that didn’t know song was about guitarist Eddie Ojeda having surgery.

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    1 year ago

    I have no idea what to do here. All I know is that it’s going to be a shit show if I don’t do something.

    Can you guys be civil? This is a monument to unification, not rebellion.

    Fuck it, consider this a warning to everyone who comments here, do not call for violence. Do not pretend the confederacy was good. Slavery and war crimes are bad. Those who comment otherwise will get the ban hammer.

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      1 year ago

      So clearly you’re going to support its removal, because we are a union now and we can replace it with another thing celebrating how great our union is now and not celebrating some of the darkest times in our country’s history.

      Let’s see some support for the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, and not this “it’s about unification” traitor crap you’re saying now.

      If keeping this post up is “pro-conservative” and “anti-left” then you’re making a bold statement you can’t just wash away with that “slavery is bad” lip service. We know what you are.

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        1 year ago

        It’s not celebrating the confederacy, it already is celebrating how great our union is now (“Now” being when it was put up). Did you read the article?

        And the “pro-conservative/anti-left” angle is that it’s literally conserving a part of our history, the reunification, and the left are the ones trying to push for the destruction of monuments. Not really what I meant by pro-conservative, but it still counts.

        I did notice that the issue you had with the confederacy was that it was a rebellion, and not the slavery. You repeated rebellion/traitor over several sentences, you didn’t even mention slavery. Is rebellion worse than slavery, in your opinion?

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          Never actually said the word “rebellion,” as you suggest. Called you a traitor specifically. Only once, not repeatedly. Did you actually read the comment? I don’t need to bring up all the points of the civil war, I think we all know those by now. This is all about you being a traitor and a hypocrite. Stay on topic.

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            1 year ago

            Again, is rebellion worse than slavery, in your opinion?

            Stop deflecting.

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              1 year ago

              We’re talking about you and your refusal to say “I don’t support anything the confederacy stood for.”

              Do it.

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                Look, the reason I think you’re being disingenuous is I explicitly stated “Do not pretend the confederacy was good.” To me, that’s a clear indication that I don’t support the confederacy. So to just be absolutely clear, I do not support slavery, slavery is evil, and I think what you’re asking is a trap somehow, even if I can’t spot exactly how it’s a trap.

                And that goes doubly so that you’re still deflecting. Is rebellion worse than slavery?

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                  I don’t support anything the confederacy stood for. See? Easy. Do it.

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      1 year ago

      Rule 1. Removal for namecalling. Also you’re clearly trying to start shit.

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        Rule 1, 3. Removed for image spam and trying to start shit. Banned once again for repeated bad faith. Since this your 3rd ban, and you seem to just want to start shit, it’s a perma ban. Congrats, you’re the first one I’ve perma banned that didn’t literally ask for it.