A Trump-nominated federal judge has halted the removal of the Reconciliation Monument in Arlington National Cemetery, which the cemetery indicated Saturday would otherwise take place by week's end. While the iconoclasts have been momentarily restrained, the fate of the historic monument, also ca...
  • Throwaway@lemm.ee
    77·
    1 year ago

    I have no idea what to do here. All I know is that it’s going to be a shit show if I don’t do something.

    Can you guys be civil? This is a monument to unification, not rebellion.

    Fuck it, consider this a warning to everyone who comments here, do not call for violence. Do not pretend the confederacy was good. Slavery and war crimes are bad. Those who comment otherwise will get the ban hammer.

    • tsonfeir@lemm.ee
      63·
      1 year ago

      So clearly you’re going to support its removal, because we are a union now and we can replace it with another thing celebrating how great our union is now and not celebrating some of the darkest times in our country’s history.

      Let’s see some support for the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, and not this “it’s about unification” traitor crap you’re saying now.

      If keeping this post up is “pro-conservative” and “anti-left” then you’re making a bold statement you can’t just wash away with that “slavery is bad” lip service. We know what you are.

      • Throwaway@lemm.ee
        27·
        1 year ago

        It’s not celebrating the confederacy, it already is celebrating how great our union is now (“Now” being when it was put up). Did you read the article?

        And the “pro-conservative/anti-left” angle is that it’s literally conserving a part of our history, the reunification, and the left are the ones trying to push for the destruction of monuments. Not really what I meant by pro-conservative, but it still counts.

        I did notice that the issue you had with the confederacy was that it was a rebellion, and not the slavery. You repeated rebellion/traitor over several sentences, you didn’t even mention slavery. Is rebellion worse than slavery, in your opinion?

        • tsonfeir@lemm.ee
          52·
          1 year ago

          Never actually said the word “rebellion,” as you suggest. Called you a traitor specifically. Only once, not repeatedly. Did you actually read the comment? I don’t need to bring up all the points of the civil war, I think we all know those by now. This is all about you being a traitor and a hypocrite. Stay on topic.

          • Throwaway@lemm.ee
            26·
            1 year ago

            Again, is rebellion worse than slavery, in your opinion?

            Stop deflecting.

            • tsonfeir@lemm.ee
              62·
              1 year ago

              We’re talking about you and your refusal to say “I don’t support anything the confederacy stood for.”

              Do it.

              • Throwaway@lemm.ee
                26·
                1 year ago

                Look, the reason I think you’re being disingenuous is I explicitly stated “Do not pretend the confederacy was good.” To me, that’s a clear indication that I don’t support the confederacy. So to just be absolutely clear, I do not support slavery, slavery is evil, and I think what you’re asking is a trap somehow, even if I can’t spot exactly how it’s a trap.

                And that goes doubly so that you’re still deflecting. Is rebellion worse than slavery?

                • tsonfeir@lemm.ee
                  51·
                  1 year ago

                  I don’t support anything the confederacy stood for. See? Easy. Do it.

                  • Throwaway@lemm.ee
                    25·
                    1 year ago

                    Whats the trap?

                    I feel like that specific wording is key to the trap. Maybe I’m just paranoid.

                    But fuck it, I’ll walk into the trap and take the bait.

                    I don’t support anything the confederacy stood for.

                    Your turn. Is rebellion worse than slavery?