It seems like France stands out among terrorist attacks in the news. Is it because they are more likely to be critical of Muslim culture than other European nations? Is it because there is a security failure allowing terrorist to come in and organize better?

  • wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one
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    11 months ago

    “It has less X than the US has shootings” means almost nothing as a statement. Thats not a metric for if its a problem or not

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      11 months ago

      But it does allow for a statement to be quantified and compared. So now on to the most dehumanising post I’ve ever written…

      Current French population is 65 million, and USA is 340 million. So USA is 5.23x larger.

      Since 2000, 292 people in France have been killed due to terrorist acts, according to this handy Wikipedia page. 90 of which were at the Bataclan, with 131 people being killed that weekend in the most deadly terrorist attack in French history.

      That gives the equivalent of 1,527 people, over nearly 24 years, or about 64 people a year.

      According to the Gun Violence Archive, in the USA 2,006 people - excluding perpetrators - have been killed…since 1st January, 2021, giving a staggering 668 people per year.

      (I would go back further, but unfortunately their data export appears to max out at 2000 incidents.)

      So, regardless of your thoughts or feelings about gun violence in America, France’s “terrorist problem” - including the worst attack they have ever faced - is less than a tenth of that.

      Does this excuse or justify any of the cowardly fucks who killed innocent people? No, of course not. Fuck them all.

      But it does highlight the size, and I hope gives people a reason to pause and think about just who is peddling the line, and just who seeks to benefit from demonising overwhelmingly peaceful minority groups.

      It’s almost like white nationalism is the bigger threat. Funny that.

    • Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com
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      11 months ago

      You are right, but we also don’t have a “terrorist problem”.

      There are mostly mentally ill people killing someone every 6 months because of being made believe idiotic things, which of cours is a tragedy. 3000 death in the circulation (cars n stuff), hundreds women beaten to death in no-terrorist ways, …

      Extreme right (Le Pen) loves it though because blaming all societys problems on one “type of population” is sadly what works, they (the Le Pen family) have been doing it for decades and decades.