• Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
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      11 months ago

      That’s exactly what it is though, they would never dare say the same thing about a first Nation community adopting similar rules.

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        11 months ago

        Because in our treaties and agreements they are quite literally sovereign nations that have the right to self determination. Unlike the Quebecois, they actually were here first, and they really are a minority at risk of extinction. It’s so strange how French Canadians can’t understand nuance.

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          You think a group of about 7m surrounded by 360m people that speak another language aren’t at risk of seeing their culture disappear?

          The Quebecois are also recognized as a separate nation by the federal government, just so you know.

          It’s so strange how Anglo Canadians can’t understand their position in this.

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            That’s awesome, so now we’re just pulling random numbers out of the hat. 360m today, 8 billion tomorrow. By that logic, though, Anglo Canadians should have disappeared into American culture huh? Since we already speak the same language. Gee, I wonder why that’s never happened.

            And just to be clear, the Quebecois are regarded as a nation, french is the official language, the feds are bilingual, and the Quebec govt conduct all operations in French, but somehow they’re also at risk of extinction is it?

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              Random numbers? Oh yeah, sorry… 5 millions French Canadians, 33.5m non French Canadians, 331.9 Americans… So yeah, you’re right, my numbers were wrong, 5m vs 367.4m… Oops, it didn’t go the way you expected did it?

              You’re pretty blind if you don’t realise that Anglo Canadian culture is disappearing, Quebec produces more original content for its TV than the rest of Canada!

              American culture is spreading so much that similar language protection laws are getting adopted in European countries now, same for protection against the spread of Russian in eastern Europe. You just don’t care because it doesn’t affect you, the proof being that I’m here and talking to you in English instead of forcing you to speak to me in french, which you should be able to do in our bilingual country.

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                There’s 7 million french and native French Canadians ffs. Random ass numbers lol. Nope it went where I wanted and the point still stands but it just flew over your head, like pretty much everything else in this thread.

                Anglo Canadian culture is doing just fine despite our politicians not clutching their pearls and blaming immigrants.

                You can’t even keep track of what your narrative is supposed to be. If Quebec produces more original TV than the rest of Canada, then it’s culture isn’t disappearing, is it? Write these things down if you have to, you’re starting to contradict yourself.

                You’re speaking English because it’s an English sub lmfao. This is exactly the type of Quebecois entitlement that I’m talking about. You don’t see me going to french subs and making a point of not forcing them to speak English.

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                  Crazy for you to be talking about entitlement when the first thing you would do when visiting a city in Québec would be to ask for service in English because YOU can’t speak the language of the place you are going to and WE have to make efforts to accomodate your lazyness but nooo we are the ones who are entitled

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                    11 months ago

                    Crazy how you just imagined that entire situation just to make yourself angry lol

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        No you see the only groups that get to use the government to hurt other groups is the groups I personally like.

        Humans are “meant” to be multilingual. That is norm for us. I still remember the small shock I felt when we were visiting my wife’s homeland for the first time and it turns out there is a language with under 6 million people, spoken only in one small region, that she knew plus the most common language of her country.

        So yeah this is a group being punished for speaking their own language on land that they originally owned, plus anyone who wants to study there and doesn’t speak French. This is freedom? This is a just society? This is education? Schools are supposed to teach not force monolithic thought and punish people for being born “wrong”.