• Mango@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    I don’t hate them and I don’t do that with me or against me nonsense. I’m just not gonna play along with their fantasy. There’s a lot of things I’m not and wish I were but I don’t get the benefit of making everyone around me pretend that’s the case so I can keep myself in an illusion.

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      11 months ago

      And I think it’s worth making respect and compassion of others a higher priority then pedantically reminding them about their current or at-birth genitals and/or chromosomes.

      I mean, even if you have an irrefutable philosophical/logical argument about how it is WRONG to accept trans-ness, I think I’m still just going to be nice to the people I meet, and treat them how they would like to be treated.

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        11 months ago

        Ok, well I want you to treat me like I’m a god. I’ve always felt that way since birth and this human shit feels really displacing.

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          11 months ago

          You’re not being asked to treat anyone special, you’re being ask to treat them like people. If the way you treat women is vastly different than the way you treat men because you see them as merely objects to fuck then you are an asshole.

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            11 months ago

            No, this is asking for special treatment 100%. I treat literally all people with a facade to keep them away. Literally nobody can make me address them in any special way.

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              11 months ago

              There’s nothing special about addressing someone as “her”, that’s just normal every day communication.

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      11 months ago

      The problem with that is that if always results in discrimination against cis women who don’t look feminine enough.

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        11 months ago

        THAT is your problem?

        Look. If someone is ugly, people will like them less and there’s absolutely nothing that will ever change that. Welcome to simp world.

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          11 months ago

          Yes, you’ve made it clear you only care to treat women with any amount of respect if you’re trying to fuck them.

          I’m talking about situations where psychos start yelling at cis women using the bathroom because they’ve convinced themselves that she’s trans.

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            11 months ago

            I don’t wanna fuck any women. Also why should I treat any category of person with respect just because of their category? I only care about individual people.

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              11 months ago

              I don’t wanna fuck any women.

              And the lies begin. What would be the relevance of you saying:

              As a straight dude, I’m not about to call another dude ‘miss’.

              If this has nothing to do with sex?

              Also why should I treat any category of person with respect just because of their category?

              You should treat every person with a basic level respect just because they are a person. Once they reveal themselves to be a misogynistic piece of shit you can stop doing so, but even then I’m not going to misgender you just because you’re an asshole.

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                11 months ago

                I’m an antinatalist. Just because you can’t immediately make sense of something doesn’t means it’s contradictory. You don’t know what you don’t know.

                I respect people when they’re capable and honest.

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                  11 months ago

                  You don’t know what you don’t know.

                  And when you don’t know what genitals someone was born with how do you address them?

                  I respect people when they’re capable and honest.

                  Glad to know you don’t respect yourself any more than I do.