• MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com
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    1 year ago

    That discomfort, I believe, is the point. Flipping the labeling game on its head is supposed to make you feel uncomfortable with the label. That can be used later for empathy.

    And labeling it a persecution fetish is projecting. And saying that the mainstream doesn’t accept it so we shouldn’t either is provocative in a post that says “don’t let mainstream lead you by the nose”.

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      1 year ago

      supposed to make you feel uncomfortable with the label. That can be used later for empathy.

      That sounds manipulative and dishonest. Perhaps I’m misunderstanding. Might you explain how that works, from either an individual or societal perspective?

      I agree we desperately need more awareness and empathy, but I don’t see how adding more synonyms that feel exclusionary helps.

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        11 months ago

        Yeah, this is the same approach that labelling majority as CIS-gender is. Sure, smart and empathetic people realize and recognize what it’s trying to highlight, but others will find it offensive and irritating before, if at all, coming to a conclusion.

        The problem with this psychological approach is that it’s projecting to bring down others / the out group, instead of attempting to elevate the disadvantaged straight. It creates a faux us vs them tribalism where there was none before.

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            11 months ago

            It may have before. I wouldn’t know, because when those terms came to be used were before my time.

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            11 months ago

            If you read my comment, that’s not my point. I know what it means. I’m talking about the labelling an out group in an offensive manner to create more division and tribalism.

            Edit: I’m not saying the word “cisgender” is offensive. I’m saying that the act of labelling is.

            Kurzgesagt has a really good new video on how easily our mind is tricked into categorizing people based on labels, which is amplified by social media, creating an us vs them mindset where the individual is less likely to align with the other side even on things that they would otherwise.

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              11 months ago

              As fun as Kurzgesagt is I don’t think following them on politics is a good move. They are primarily a science channel. They also have potential conflicts of interest given who they are funded by.

              We have been labelled in many offensive ways for a long time. Allistic isn’t meant to be any more offensive than the word autistic is. I have never seen it being used in a deliberately offensive manner the way autistic is often used in an offensive manner. If neurotypical people are scared about such a label that tells you more about them than it does about us and how they treat people they view as different than them.