Now, a few weeks ago, Firefox has posted that controverse article about “de-platforming” people like Trump, now, I was reading the article, but it was a bit too complicated to understand, what’s the problem with it and I was reading the comments on Twitter (which is never a good idea), where anyone was attacking Mozilla.

So, can anyone please explain, whats wrong with it? Thanks in advance!

  • ghost_laptop
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    03 years ago

    Basically Mozilla said that deplatforming alone isn’t enough and that it can be a little scary since the decision making there is taken by the heads of the companies which can be used to block good people too. So I imagine a lot of rightist (which encompasses a lot of privacy users) and stupid centrist people who believe shit like “we should not censor neither the right nor the left!!!11” got angry and stop using FF.

    • Kohen Shaw
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      03 years ago

      The article wasn’t as ambiguous as some folks on the right like to read into it. Basically Mozilla said that de-platforming was done too late in Trump’s case (which is right) and that measures should be taken in advance so that you don’t get to the point of de-platforming. You may take this as controlling speech or how ever you want, but at the end of the day these are private companies. If they ban or silence you for what ever reason, they have the right to do it.

      At the end of the day, federated social media platforms are in everyone’s interest - right, center, left. These should be popularized so that people start using them more and more, to avoid this kind of situations.

      • ghost_laptop
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        13 years ago

        I’m not taking that as controlling speech, but I don’t really care if they are private companies and have the right to do it, they only banned Trump because it was good for them in terms of PR, not because they care about shit. One day may come, and there will be an important person on the left, and they are going to ban them too if they want to, that’s why I think it’s not only that deplatforming is not worth it but there are other measures (like not leaving all the decision making to Zuckerberg) or I don’t know, actively avoiding the growth of fascism in the first place?

        • @[email protected]
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          03 years ago

          People on the left are constantly deplatformed every day - along with being surveilled, policed, imprisoned, gaslit, threatened, and murdered.

          If you try to actually fight for worker’s rights, the environment, or against the greed of the rich, that quickly brings you into conflict with every force that’s designed to protect capital and the profits of the ruling class.

          Environmental activists are murdered all the time. Striking workers are gunned down by police. Black and socialist organisers are taken to secret prisons, or killed while they sleep.

          The right / liberals don’t face this threat as they are not a threat to profits, but are instead enforcers of capitalism.

          Yet it’s the right wing / conservative / liberal voices who the capitalist media will devote all their resources to if a leftist dares to deplatform a literal Nazi.

          In the case of Trump, that wasn’t any sort of leftist deplatforming. That was liberals who no longer saw him as profitable after they had profited from platforming him for years and moved onto the next grift. He was done. And just for good measure in an effort to appease the “other side” social media companies have been banning posts and shutting down accounts of anarchists and other actual leftists since then.