I think this is the death knoll for the protest unfortunately. Shitposting hurts the user experience, but it doesn’t really hurt reddit. In a week or two the casual users will revolt against the protests and the mods will feel like they have lost popular support and cave.
Hopefully enough people have fully left the platform to cause reddit some pain. But honestly I think reddit would rather have a smaller easier to manipulate user base of new users rather than keeping all the oldest and most cynical users.
I think the action should be coordinated with a migration to lemmy, every user who complains about the lack of quality content you forward (via comments) to the counterpart here
It’s burning the barn down. Sure, new subs will happen, but they will be harder to find, and they need to re-establish the rules. It also makes monetization hard. All those ads sold against specific subs are worthless. And now reddit doesn’t know what subs it can sell ads against. Basically they can only sell ads generally to the entire site. This hits Reddit in the wallet. Also, it mucks up selling the data to AI companies.
Long term, I think you are correct. But short term reddit is trying to IPO. This whole protest will devalue any IPO and cause investors to think twice.
But right now it’s bringing eyeballs to see the spectacle. To be effective these need to persist long past the point where it isn’t “fun” anymore.
Spez likely is looking at this and seeing:
He can make mods jump by threatening to move ownership of the subreddit
Numbers are up as people engage with this fad
Once users tire of this he can trot out the same threats and take over the subreddits anyway
Edit: just to make it clear I’m not saying I think this is fine for Reddit long term. I’ve just had this conversation with too many MBAs to not know this is how they’d look at all of this.
I think long term reddit will start to bleed out. There is simply no world where once that IPO drops they don’t start making even more anti-user choices. Digg has members active to this day. Its just a matter of time. I genuinely see fediverse projects as the future, it’s just about organic growth now and the shutdowns did a great job of jumpstarting the process.
I think this is the death knoll for the protest unfortunately. Shitposting hurts the user experience, but it doesn’t really hurt reddit. In a week or two the casual users will revolt against the protests and the mods will feel like they have lost popular support and cave.
Hopefully enough people have fully left the platform to cause reddit some pain. But honestly I think reddit would rather have a smaller easier to manipulate user base of new users rather than keeping all the oldest and most cynical users.
I think the action should be coordinated with a migration to lemmy, every user who complains about the lack of quality content you forward (via comments) to the counterpart here
Someone else will have to do it, I haven’t been active on Reddit since June 12th
Yep. If no alternative is put forward then nothing will change.
I’m just hoping the protests have forced enough like-minded people into the Fediverse that the culture Reddit had (then lost) will resurface.
It’s burning the barn down. Sure, new subs will happen, but they will be harder to find, and they need to re-establish the rules. It also makes monetization hard. All those ads sold against specific subs are worthless. And now reddit doesn’t know what subs it can sell ads against. Basically they can only sell ads generally to the entire site. This hits Reddit in the wallet. Also, it mucks up selling the data to AI companies.
Long term, I think you are correct. But short term reddit is trying to IPO. This whole protest will devalue any IPO and cause investors to think twice.
I think it’s obvious that Reddit will remove the mods if shit posting continues.
I also think it’s obvious this isn’t the quick fix people keep pretending it is.
Pick a totally new user? Might be a shitty mod and not able to handle the shitposting anyway.
Pick an existing mod that’s willing to play ball? That’s what they did with /r/piracy, which is now John Oliver themed anyway.
That’s a lot of manual work considering how many subreddits/mods there are
It does hurt Reddit, the user experience is what keeps people browsing it. If the user experience deteriorates, so does engagement.
But right now it’s bringing eyeballs to see the spectacle. To be effective these need to persist long past the point where it isn’t “fun” anymore.
Spez likely is looking at this and seeing:
Edit: just to make it clear I’m not saying I think this is fine for Reddit long term. I’ve just had this conversation with too many MBAs to not know this is how they’d look at all of this.
He still have to explain to his investors when they go public why his users are trying to kill the site…
On the plus side if I ever need sexy pictures of John Oliver I know exactly where to go.
I think long term reddit will start to bleed out. There is simply no world where once that IPO drops they don’t start making even more anti-user choices. Digg has members active to this day. Its just a matter of time. I genuinely see fediverse projects as the future, it’s just about organic growth now and the shutdowns did a great job of jumpstarting the process.