Description This is getting a little silly now, guys. I appreciate the privacy benefits of Brave, but I don't really want to play whack-a-mole with Brave's forceful corporate advert...
There are so many things wrong with brave. The whole business model is unethical, replacing ads from websites with their own. Brave uses a crappy “cryptomoney” which doesn’t mean anything (they could very well use a non-crypto virtual money, they only make it “crypto” to attract attention).
I’ve also seen brave being promoted by right-wingers. I don’t really know if their userbase is really skewed towards the right.
Personally I’ll stick with Firefox. Even if Mozilla is imperfect, they are actually working to make the Web better, by promoting diversity of browser engine, fighting harmful web standards, and leading the charge on many fronts regarding bettering the Web, not just adding a layer of bullshit that doesn’t help anyone. And when it comes to ads/tracker blocking, Firefox’s advanced tracking protection + uBlock origin is pretty much the best you can get.
yeah the fact that it came from a CEO who was fired from firefox for being homophobic is one of the main reasons I’ll never touch it with a 10 foot pole. It’s different from firefox in all the wrong ways, and some of the cooler things are just gimmicks.
AFAIK he wasn’t fired explicitly, but was forced to resign from is job as CEO due to public outrage.
some of the cooler things are just gimmicks
I totally agree with you on that point. The blockchain is here just to intrigue and make people think it’s cool, while it works just like any virtual money. (blockchain in general does have useful properties, bu when its centralised like it is in BAT).
Same goes with the TOR tabs. In most cases, a VPN is a much better solution than TOR.
My comment wasn’t entirely about the fact thar Brave was shady. It was just a list of reasons why I stay away from it, and why I recommend others to do too.
I don’t even think that “shady” is the right term for Brave. It’s not like they’re really hiding anything, the browser is Open Source, and their business model is clear. I just think it’s unethical, and that Brave doesn’t even try to attack the source of what’s wrong in the Web.
I agree with you on the Brave browser and all the cruft it includes but you’re missing my point. I’m saying it isn’t necessary to mention one’s character defects in relation to their product.
I’m saying it isn’t necessary to mention one’s character defects in relation to their product.
IMO it is. Brendan Eich is the CEO and founder of Brave. Brave is a private company, which he owns. He makes money from the Ads inserted by the browser. Many people don’t want to give this guy any money, and they’re right. It’s a point that will interest many, thus it is useful to bring it up.
If you think that you can support a company while disagreeing with the CEO, fine. But that doesn’t mean that the CEO’s actions should not be discussed.
Marcos Abenante said hateful and racist things. I’m not supporting nor downloading his Brutal Doom project anymore
I don’t know who that guy is or if any of what you’re claiming is true, but if I played brutal doom and learned about something like that it would likely bother me indeed.
Tim Cook is a homosexual therefore I won’t buy his products because of his sexual orientation
This is completely different from what’s above. Tim Cook being Gay doesn’t harm anyone, while donating to hateful lobbies and denying basic science does.
yeah if the CEO of brave donates to hateful charities, and he’s making money from his scummy practices, then that is absolutely a valid criticism of the product.
This is completely different from what’s above. Tim Cook being Gay doesn’t harm anyone, while donating to hateful lobbies and denying basic science does.
Sure it can, depending on whichever ideology or philosophy people follow. I think it’s generally in bad faith to include such things outside the context of the original topic of Brave being sketchy.
I don’t understand what the CEO being homophobic has to do with it. The product is great, it doesn’t allow targeted advertising, he doesn’t invade our privacy and security, etc.
As for the “crappy cryptomoney”, I wouldn’t call it useless or crappy. I’ve gotten almost $28 from it for nothing, and using the Uphold app connected to your Brave browser you can exchange it for any crypto, or equity in other companies, or even by gold with it. It isn’t just a useless crypto and I think it’s kind of messed up I’ve gotten $28 from literally nothing while advertising companies are taking it all in with normal browsers.
There are so many things wrong with brave. The whole business model is unethical, replacing ads from websites with their own. Brave uses a crappy “cryptomoney” which doesn’t mean anything (they could very well use a non-crypto virtual money, they only make it “crypto” to attract attention).
The CEO is homophobic, and now he expresses weird beliefs around COVID.
I’ve also seen brave being promoted by right-wingers. I don’t really know if their userbase is really skewed towards the right.
Personally I’ll stick with Firefox. Even if Mozilla is imperfect, they are actually working to make the Web better, by promoting diversity of browser engine, fighting harmful web standards, and leading the charge on many fronts regarding bettering the Web, not just adding a layer of bullshit that doesn’t help anyone. And when it comes to ads/tracker blocking, Firefox’s advanced tracking protection + uBlock origin is pretty much the best you can get.
yeah the fact that it came from a CEO who was fired from firefox for being homophobic is one of the main reasons I’ll never touch it with a 10 foot pole. It’s different from firefox in all the wrong ways, and some of the cooler things are just gimmicks.
AFAIK he wasn’t fired explicitly, but was forced to resign from is job as CEO due to public outrage.
I totally agree with you on that point. The blockchain is here just to intrigue and make people think it’s cool, while it works just like any virtual money. (blockchain in general does have useful properties, bu when its centralised like it is in BAT).
Same goes with the TOR tabs. In most cases, a VPN is a much better solution than TOR.
Brave also seems to whitelist Facebook and Twitter’s tracking scripts
This line had nothing to do with how shady the Brave browser is though.
My comment wasn’t entirely about the fact thar Brave was shady. It was just a list of reasons why I stay away from it, and why I recommend others to do too.
I don’t even think that “shady” is the right term for Brave. It’s not like they’re really hiding anything, the browser is Open Source, and their business model is clear. I just think it’s unethical, and that Brave doesn’t even try to attack the source of what’s wrong in the Web.
I agree with you on the Brave browser and all the cruft it includes but you’re missing my point. I’m saying it isn’t necessary to mention one’s character defects in relation to their product.
IMO it is. Brendan Eich is the CEO and founder of Brave. Brave is a private company, which he owns. He makes money from the Ads inserted by the browser. Many people don’t want to give this guy any money, and they’re right. It’s a point that will interest many, thus it is useful to bring it up.
If you think that you can support a company while disagreeing with the CEO, fine. But that doesn’t mean that the CEO’s actions should not be discussed.
Okay. By that logic:
“Tim Cook is a homosexual therefore I won’t buy his products because of his sexual orientation.”
Or…
“Marcos Abenante said hateful and racist things. I’m not supporting nor downloading his Brutal Doom project anymore”.
Is that what you’re saying? That’s ridiculous. Stay objective and out of the intersectional rabbit hole.
I don’t know who that guy is or if any of what you’re claiming is true, but if I played brutal doom and learned about something like that it would likely bother me indeed.
This is completely different from what’s above. Tim Cook being Gay doesn’t harm anyone, while donating to hateful lobbies and denying basic science does.
yeah if the CEO of brave donates to hateful charities, and he’s making money from his scummy practices, then that is absolutely a valid criticism of the product.
Agreed. I’d rather read more into that than one’s opinion of their character.
Sure it can, depending on whichever ideology or philosophy people follow. I think it’s generally in bad faith to include such things outside the context of the original topic of Brave being sketchy.
Oh, wow. This is way worse than I thought. Fuck 'em and their slimy CEO.
I don’t understand what the CEO being homophobic has to do with it. The product is great, it doesn’t allow targeted advertising, he doesn’t invade our privacy and security, etc.
As for the “crappy cryptomoney”, I wouldn’t call it useless or crappy. I’ve gotten almost $28 from it for nothing, and using the Uphold app connected to your Brave browser you can exchange it for any crypto, or equity in other companies, or even by gold with it. It isn’t just a useless crypto and I think it’s kind of messed up I’ve gotten $28 from literally nothing while advertising companies are taking it all in with normal browsers.
The CEO being homophobic means I don’t want to do anything that earns him money.
I don’t understand that though, (not trying to be a dick) I could understand it if he was prejudice, but he just doesn’t like them.
He donated money to anti gay marriage lobbies.