I broke my phone a few months ago and I hadn’t use a phone since I didn’t need it until now. I’m willing to buy one that’s around under 500$. I’m thinking of getting google pixel maybe, any recommendations?

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    Privacy can be controlled on application level, but there are a lot of system stuff that user can’t change and the best solution for system is GrapheneOS in terms of security, as I said in first comment.

    Google is evil, no question about that, but Google is just a brand / label on the phone. Ironically, but most secure and privacy-friendly phone is Google Pixel without Google

    As for privacy, any phone capable of running lineageos is fine, but lacks security

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      Google Pixel without Google

      has Google’s proprietary hardware

      I am sure you make sense. And yeah security does not work that way. Has GrapheneOS been audited by anyone yet? Pwn2Own? Any other BlackHat event?

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        OK, has any xiaomi phone audited by anybody?

        What about proprietary hardware of all other vendors?

        I’m not trying to say that pixel is perfect or something, I think whole mobile market is a proprietary shit, tbh. But you need phone anyway, so IMT just trying to tell that pixel smells less that xiaomi, Asus or anything else

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          Pixel smells less than

          Are you implying that American brands are somehow better than Taiwanese or Chinese or rest of world brands? Is this some kind of blind USA cultism? Despite the fact that Google AI was directly involved in bombings in Yemen, it smells less bad than Xiaomi or other brands?

          Forgot to address your “muh all phones have proprietary hardware” argument. All phones have one less proprietary hardware layer to deal with. Google adds that compared to other OEMs. Lesser the proprietary “security” components, lesser the attack surface, more the security.

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            I’m not from USA and “cultism” is not for me, I’m enthusiast of open source and don’t trust proprietary software and hardware. Sadly, but there is no 100% hardware ready for end-users, so I’m just trying to find a balance.

            Btw, any device has proprietary “security” components, so it’s all about “smells less”, not " trusted one".

            My own opinion - GrapheneOS is good one, using it on Pixel devices is a trade-off.

            Anyway, that thread comes to holywar and I don’t want to take part in it, my arguments and thoughts you can find in comments above, if you disagree with them - OK, I’m fine with it. Just shared my thoughts