im so sick of seeing reports regarding men posting in women-only communities and i cant help but get annoyed with these guys.

the rules are clearly presented. either youre not paying attention or youre just an asshole who purposefully throws their opinion in a place explicitly not wanting it.

what the fuck is wrong with you guys?

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    OK, I pulled out a computer for you so I could see the rules side by side with my post because my mobile client doesn’t allow it.

    Rule 1: Be nice and; have fun

    Doxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here.

    OP came in swinging hot, maybe a little toxic, but there are valid points behind the hot words.

    However, OP has shown that they are able to accept other viewpoints from valid arguments (https://lemmy.ca/post/48960508/18080134). So I would argue this is borderline.

    I have to say, I have no idea what sealioning is though.

    Rule 5: This is not a support community.

    It is not a place for ‘how do I?’, type questions. If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to Lemmy.world Support or email [email protected]. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.

    This isn’t a “How do I”. This is an open ended attempt (with some frustration) to try to under why members of the community do certain things.

    That’s my view anyway. What’s yours?

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      This is an open ended attempt (with some frustration) to try to under why members of the community do certain things.

      I am fine with not commenting in women-only spaces, but that is very much not what OP is trying to do. OP is venting and using a rhetorical question they don’t seem to particularly want an answer to. Is that “requesting support?” Does that extend to emotional/moral support?

      I think if the OP is complaining about not following the rules and spirit of a community when posting, it seems appropriate to point out if they are violating the rules (and spirit) of the community they post it in.

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      Sealioning is when someone pretends to be ‘just asking questions’ in good faith in an attempt to sow discord in a community.

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      “Cite sources of your claim, prove it, and spend ages providing material that I will dismiss as irrelevant!”.

      The name comes from this comic:

      Sparrohawcs explanation is also a pretty good one.

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        Cite sources of your claim, prove it, and spend ages providing material that I will dismiss as irrelevant!

        That just seems like an objection whiners raise when they dislike challenges: they

        • find the burden of supporting their argument coherently too taxing or
        • don’t know how to resolve mutually accepted premises or
        • don’t like assumptions questioned.

        No one needs to answer challenges to their argument or “spend ages providing material”. By that same token, no one else needs to care about a weak, poorly defended argument.

        It’s easy enough to ignore or reciprocate preposterous lines of questioning: seems like a skills issue.

        As for “sowing discord”, there’s a strong philosophical tradition of doing pretty much that (ie, shamelessly, impudently breaking conformity to unchallenged conventions & assumptions) to dispel “false belief, mindlessness, folly, and conceit” in the pursuit of “mental clarity or lucidity”. They were called dogs & would even state “other dogs bite their enemies, I bite my friends to save them”. Such classical philosophers might be called trolls nowadays.

        Any system that treats them as trolls is broken in my opinion.

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      I shared my view and left the community. Was something about my comment unclear?

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        I didn’t see why it was a clear violation of rule 5. I was wondering why you thought it was