We do not need our bodies once we leave this world regardless of what you think happens after we die. We should be focused on curing diseases and extending the life of living humans. Science would go so far if we used human bodies after death instead of requiring people to give consent to something they don’t need.

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      They can grieve without a body. Funeral plots and graveyards should go away too, we really dont need that.

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      A little part of him lives in someone else, he saved a life with his passing

      Doesn’t sound that bad, once you normalize it.

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          Beliefs were the ones which ran over entire continents, if you remember correctly.

          So it’s time to stop. Give science a chance.

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          Living people who are about to die have priority over dead people’s myths

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              they can bury the body without a few organs.

              or if they want to opt out, they become ineligible for recieving organs.

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                  if you’re against organ donations for whatever reason, then you shouldn’t be in favour of getting them.

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          As has been said, make it “opt-out”, but then you’re not eligible for organs

          Religion is poison

          Also, stop people’s next of kin being able to override the choice of the person who wanted to donate

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              I’ve read them

              I’ve seen your descent into telling people that they’re as bad as Hitler

              You should look up Godwin’s law,

              In your self-righteousness, you have deliberately ignored the valid criticisms of your position

              Have a nice life, and please donate your body at the end of it

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      Isn’t it better to know your loved one has saved many lives on their way to the other side?

      that part of them are still here helping people?

      also, there will be less grieving of there are more organs available.

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          i think it should be an opt out, but opting out makes you ineligible for getting donated organs.

          if you don’t believe in it, then don’t get it, and don’t cry about being left to die because of your selfishness

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              that’s like saying we should ignore DNR and save people despite their beliefs.

              my view is simple, against organ donations, don’t get them. simple as.

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                  i think eye surgery is good, should said operation be forced on everyone? no, if you don’t want it, don’t get it.

                  and you’re being disingenuous.

                  all I said is that organ donations should be opt out, and it should go both ways.

                  you’re the one who is trying to stretch it into racism.

                  it’s subsidising milk racist because some ethnic communities have more lactose intolerant? no,

                  and if some community tent to have more DNR, is it racist to respect it?

                  instead of engaging in the ethic of someone who refuses to save lives but it’s ok to use other people’s organs, you just cry BS.

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              These are not alike. We are talking about individuals choosing for themselves, before they die. If you choose not to share when you pass, why would you be prioritised over someone who was willing?

              Genuinely held beliefs or not, religion and spirituality have no role to play in the survival of a community system.

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          Fair enough, but the person you’re replying to is simply giving good arguments to present the survivors.

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              I’m confused about how this would be a problem in an opt-out system. Assume it’s like cigarettes in NZ, if you’re born after X year you are automatically opted in - but you or your guardian can opt out at any time.

              If the spirituality and wholeness of body is significant to a cultural group, by all means they can opt out. But the default should benefit the majority, with provisions for the minority.