Misogynist men said the said thing about feminism in the 1950s.
They literally already said they weren’t looking to convert to veganism for moral reasons, so I don’t know what point you think you’re making.
There was a willing ally in the reduction of meat consumption and the mainstreaming of vegan options, but the vegan community they encountered decided that insufficient orthodoxy was reason enough to encourage their ‘carnist’ enemy to go back to murdering animals for food.
If someone in 1918 says, “I don’t think women are equal, but I do think they deserve the vote”, the correct response is not to attack them; it’s to make common cause with them until women get the vote - and fuck, that they’re already ahead of the curve may mean that they can be swayed by the positions of their new allies.
But many online vegans (and I specify online, since the only vegans I’ve met irl have been pretty nice folks, even to a ‘carnist’ like me) treat it as a religion, a fashion; an identity.
Meat is murder - but murder, apparently, is preferable to wrongthink.
Animals are individuals not property. So stop justifying animal abuse. God you’re one of the spineless types who just plays along with the atrocities of the modern day.
I murdered an animal the other week. Not even for food. Its corpse is off rotting somewhere now.
Separately, I have some animal-murder spray below the sink for when the warm weather comes. Usually don’t need it, but in an apartment, you never can tell.
Misogynist men said the said thing about feminism in the 1950s.
They literally already said they weren’t looking to convert to veganism for moral reasons, so I don’t know what point you think you’re making.
There was a willing ally in the reduction of meat consumption and the mainstreaming of vegan options, but the vegan community they encountered decided that insufficient orthodoxy was reason enough to encourage their ‘carnist’ enemy to go back to murdering animals for food.
If someone in 1918 says, “I don’t think women are equal, but I do think they deserve the vote”, the correct response is not to attack them; it’s to make common cause with them until women get the vote - and fuck, that they’re already ahead of the curve may mean that they can be swayed by the positions of their new allies.
But many online vegans (and I specify online, since the only vegans I’ve met irl have been pretty nice folks, even to a ‘carnist’ like me) treat it as a religion, a fashion; an identity.
Meat is murder - but murder, apparently, is preferable to wrongthink.
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You’re literally going against the definition of words.
The animals do not have a choice, they do not want to be exploited and slaughtered. That is slavery period.
Forcibly impregnating someone “is not rape” what a joke. You’re heartless.
You’re using tankie logic.
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It’s literally the same action but with different subjects. You’re an awful person.
I can’t wait until the mass rape of flowers begins in the spring.
Plants do not have central nervous system. Stepping on grass is not the same as stepping on kittens. Giving birth is a painful process each time.
I agree. But then we run into the issue that it is “literally the same action but with different subjects.”
Your previous comment implied subject does not matter; now you are saying it very much does.
Animals are individuals not property. So stop justifying animal abuse. God you’re one of the spineless types who just plays along with the atrocities of the modern day.
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That’s the first correct thing you said in this thread. Just because someone is not human does not mean it’s okay to harm them.
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I murdered an animal the other week. Not even for food. Its corpse is off rotting somewhere now.
Separately, I have some animal-murder spray below the sink for when the warm weather comes. Usually don’t need it, but in an apartment, you never can tell.