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Sunshine (she/her) to The Democratic People's Republic of Tankiejerk@lemmy.world · 4 months ago

The Old Four Are At It Again

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The Old Four Are At It Again

Sunshine (she/her) to The Democratic People's Republic of Tankiejerk@lemmy.world · 4 months ago
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  • PugJesus@lemmy.worldM
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    Vegantheoryclub is tankie? How unfortunate.

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      There’s a reason why it felt like walking on glass when I was part of it.

    • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee
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      Yeah, I can’t keep up with these instance-based politics either. I know it doesn’t make sense but I wish instances overall would be more just ‘federated but more of the same’ and communities within the political furry factions or whatever.

  • TheEntity@lemmy.world
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    Wait, what? What’s that first one? Is there some context I’m missing?

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      As a dramatic oversimplification: how dare you tell us that forcing domestic pets into a vegan diet is animal cruelty! We’re going to make our own instance, with blackjack and hookers!

      There was some stuff about vegan users being harassed after the “vegan pets” debacle too, but they’re effectively “We need our own space where we can be as dramatically vegan as we want to be with no opposition”.

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          A carnist sounds like a incredibly hedonistic individual. Like hedonism bot just absolutely amped up.

        • 🇦🇺𝕄𝕦𝕟𝕥𝕖𝕕𝕔𝕣𝕠𝕔𝕠𝕕𝕚𝕝𝕖@lemm.ee
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          I’ve gotta incorporate carnist into a metal as fuck username.

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          It straight up put me off becoming a vegan because they are just such fucking assholes.

          Misogynist men said the said thing about feminism in the 1950s.

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            Misogynist men said the said thing about feminism in the 1950s.

            They literally already said they weren’t looking to convert to veganism for moral reasons, so I don’t know what point you think you’re making.

            There was a willing ally in the reduction of meat consumption and the mainstreaming of vegan options, but the vegan community they encountered decided that insufficient orthodoxy was reason enough to encourage their ‘carnist’ enemy to go back to murdering animals for food.

            If someone in 1918 says, “I don’t think women are equal, but I do think they deserve the vote”, the correct response is not to attack them; it’s to make common cause with them until women get the vote - and fuck, that they’re already ahead of the curve may mean that they can be swayed by the positions of their new allies.

            But many online vegans (and I specify online, since the only vegans I’ve met irl have been pretty nice folks, even to a ‘carnist’ like me) treat it as a religion, a fashion; an identity.

            Meat is murder - but murder, apparently, is preferable to wrongthink.

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            • Sunshine (she/her)OP
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              Comparing animal ranching to slavery and artificial insemination to rape.

              You’re literally going against the definition of words.

              The animals do not have a choice, they do not want to be exploited and slaughtered. That is slavery period.

              Forcibly impregnating someone “is not rape” what a joke. You’re heartless.

              You’re using tankie logic.

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                • Sunshine (she/her)OP
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                  It’s literally the same action but with different subjects. You’re an awful person.

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        Or you could actually read the science. Recent studies in the last 3 years point to the contrary. That is misrepresenting the situation as synthetic taurine, B12 and vitamin A can be provided in a plant-based diet through the form of reputable kibble brands.

        Sources: https://bmcvetres.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12917-021-02754-8

        https://www.magonlinelibrary.com/doi/abs/10.12968/vetn.2022.13.6.252

        https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0253292

        https://www.mdpi.com/2306-7381/10/1/52

        https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0284132

        https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S240584402411609X

        https://www.mdpi.com/2076-2615/6/9/57

        https://sustainablepetfood.info/

        https://www.benevo.com/vegan-cat-food-from-benevo/

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          “How dare you respond to my common-sense based objections with actual information!”

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          I doubt that….: stirring The very argument that caused an exodus, against the people who didn’t leave with the same arguments that was had last time, and ignoring the same rebuttals as last time; …will result in a different outcome.

  • TʜᴇʀᴀᴘʏGⒶʀʏ⁽ᵗʰᵉʸ‘ᵗʰᵉᵐ⁾@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Is vegantheoryclub auth? No one answered this question

    Edit: To anyone who may consider wasting their time telling me animal agriculture doesn’t necessarily involve rape, slavery, and murder, or that dogs can’t eat a plant based diet, please don’t bother

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      No, vegan theory club (VTC) is not auth afaict and veganism is inherently leftist if anything. It seems OP cyberstalks the admin of VTC who recently stepped down (in part because of the cyberstalking). That former admin, hamid, identifies as an anarchist as far as i can see. So i really don’t know why sunshine makes these posts other than just stirring up drama.

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        veganism is inherently leftist

        Fucking leftism is inherently leftist but somehow some still support Putin

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    Are they back on their putin shit? I haven’t seen a tankie outright shill for Russia in a while and I thought they were actually backing off that point.

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    I haven’t even seen a hexbear post (on ‘All’) since their DNS debacle. Maybe @[email protected] defederated them or their new url isn’t getting picked up?

    I can’t say I’ve seen a particular uptick in pro-putin content but I’ll be paranoid about it now!

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      I think their DNS situation is causing federation issues. We didn’t do anything on our end.

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