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  • Phoenixz
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    17 hours ago

    KDE has an enormous system settings GUI.

    Having said that, I use the console for like 90% of tasks. Basically I use either the GUI browser, an editor (I’m a dev) and the console through yakuake.

    I use the console because it’s way WAY more efficient to get shit done. What teo windows admin do in 30 minutes I do in 30 seconds, and that was an actual event where we had to change DNS configurations inna large amount of customer servers.

    Command console is not old tech, it’s efficient tech.

    Having said that, most normal users shouldn’t have or need to access the console either and for most of the time, this rings true with Linux now. Yeah, there are few exceptions here and there, but then again, windows too requires these senslrss Registry settings, or sometimes even command line actions as well

    • Natanox@discuss.tchncs.deOP
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      16 hours ago

      This is just not true. The average Windows user never has to open the registry, only devs and tinkerers have to. Neither a shell.

      For Windows admins do in 30 minutes and you in 30 seconds takes a normal user either 30 minutes ib Linux or, way too often, 30 hours because the random command in the internet didn’t work, did work but had unforeseen consequences (way worse and way too often) or outright broke their system.

      Even KDE lacks settings, and even if they ARE there the community is so god damn “terminalistic” that you’ll barely find the correct answer for the GUI, just a bunch of CLI commands that will age like milk and cause future people who look for help to accidentally break something.

      NOBODY should be forced to enter a superuser command they can’t understand to achieve a goal they very well do. The community is still fighting against the users’ ability to open a file browser or text editor as superuser WITHOUT going through the command line. It sucks, and normal users constantly get alienated by the lack of these fundamental things on a system that pretends to give them full control.

      Full control it does give; after 2 years of painfully learning the command line and its bells and whistles. And this sucks.

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        12 hours ago

        I’m sure it’s different in many distros, but in Mint the ability to open a file browser as root is in the right click menu.

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      16 hours ago

      What teo windows admin do in 30 minutes I do in 30 seconds

      You know that pretty much everything in Windows can be done with powershell, right? Just a few and very specific things need to be done using older command line tools, or extremely rarely using a GUI.

      It’s trivial to write a script that changes the DNS configuration on every server for example. It’s even easy to parallelize it.

      You pretty much only need something like this.

      $Servers = “server01”, “server02”, “server03”

      $Servers | ForEach-Object { Invoke-Command -Computername $_ -Scriptblock { Set-DnsClientServerAddress -InterfaceIndex 12 -ServerAddresses (“10.0.0.1”,“10.0.0.2”) }}

      I can’t guarantee that it will run, since I wrote it on my phone (hence formatting), but it wouldn’t be far off. You could also do it without pipes using something like ‘foreach $server in $servers’ but that’s harder to type on a phone and I prefer pipes.