Em Adespoton

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Cake day: June 4th, 2023

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  • How do Americans have more moral authority right now than Christians? They’re overlapping groups that as a whole are behaving pretty badly right now. You could apply the same logic here to police officers or many other groups (manyotherism?)

    You may have a point with humanity as a whole, as there’s only one way to exit that group and it’s not going to be an effective solution to the world’s current problems.

    It’s not “whataboutisn” when someone says “I own that and I’m doing what I can to fix things. This needs to be applied to other groups as well” though. That’s a “yes, and” not a “not this but that” argument.

    In this context, the other groups are brought up solely to illustrate the issues, and not to condone the bad behavior festering inside the larger group that self-identifies as Christian.




  • Feel free to spit in my face then.

    I’d argue that what these people are spreading is about as close to Christianity as Trump’s sharpie hurricane map is to an actual hurricane though; damaging and ignorant by misleading people.

    As an example, they say God orders women to submit to their husbands. They get that from a letter Paul of Tarsus wrote to a group of early Christians in response to the way a particular group of (uneducated, likely trophy) wives were behaving that wasn’t in line with Jesus’ teachings to put others before themselves, because they misunderstood the bit about Jesus being an ultimate sacrifice that freed people from Jewish law to mean that you could behave however you wanted, and all would be forgiven. Paul told them that’s not how things work, and to ask their (likely educated in Jewish law) husbands to explain it to them at home instead of disrupting public meetings by preaching junk like this.

    Unfortunately, a lot if what the public sees of Christianity in the US is remixes of exactly the same things the Bible these people own directly instructs against.

    Jesus was a socialist pacifist. These people attempt to re-make him in their own image, taking instructions from his immediate followers out of context to justify their behavior, totally ignoring actual direct commands like “love your enemies and do good to those who hate you.”














  • Indeed; that’s exactly the type of thing Trump took advantage of in the US — getting away with behaviour because nobody had ever considered someone might decide that since it wasn’t illegal, why not do it?

    But if we’re changing the rules to prevent ass hattery like PP’s, we need to ensure that it protects against the other extreme too… because otherwise someone will eventually take advantage of THAT, to equal detriment of the Canadian public.