I’m nowhere near LA but at least on BlueSky there’s been a lot of snide “oh, now they’re telling us to fight fascism by being nice!” Under any comment or post about not getting violent and not burning shit. I’m sure there’s some right wing provocatuers but I imagine there are also a bunch of kids who think lighting cars on fire is in fact fighting fascism etc.

This really just seems like “I want to complain about .ml” with extra steps.

I don’t care for them, so I don’t go there.

Open source projects will be used for things of which you approve and of which you do not, that is life.

Straight down the centre.

Fyi, what’s happening in LA is a much more trumpian distraction; it’ll suck up all the media oxygen, it’s an (possibly the only, if iirc) issue (immigration) on which he not only has overwhelming Republican support but ALSO a net favourable rating with the public overall.

Oh yeah, he’s absolutely trolling and doing so delightfully.

Ehhhh, trump’s incredibly successful modus operandi for distraction is to bait the Left into over-reacting etc. Epstein is actually important to a swathe of his voters (as is, I assume the respect of one of the wealthiest men on Earth.)

If trump wanted a distraction, he’d sifn another ED targetting trans folks or somesuch in a way to make the Left freak out so that the fight becomes about that/our over reaction depending on your pov.

I was 34. But maybe a late emotional developer?

Yeah, I’m curious myself.

I think though, short term at least, I put money on trump. He’s vindictive and petty as fuck and a huge chunk of Elon’s wealth is from govt contracts, subsidies and future expectations. A trump govt can remove almost all of those and otherwise target him pretty effectively…

It’s funny, I was pretty much in your shoes (who cries at imaginary people?) For most things. Then covid hit, something flipped and damn, I’m pretty sure I’ve had tears in more movies in the last 3 years than the 30 before that.

Oh damn, fantastic reference. 10/10

Maybe but I kinda doubt it. Trump’s usually move is to trigger the Left by saying something that divides us from the majority of folks (as some trans Californian track athlete just won something, perfect time too) whereas having a fight with someone hia base respects that escalates to something his base cares about (rooting out Dem pedophile cabal, regardless of whether one exists) and implicating him… That seems a stunningly bad move and for all his faults, trump is good at the politics of a brawl.

Well, there goes Tesla’s full self driving federal approvals etc.

Unsure if social media is dying but in no way would I consider it a replacement for meeting real humans offline.

Hell, if there’s less social media, maybe people finally go and meet more people and while with those people, stay off their phones.

For whomever was crazy enough to read this far… op blocked so no need for politeness.

op finally admits there’s a cost. And spending money with minimal return unlike on nurses or aging infrastructure seems a dumb way to spend our limited health dollars. (does he maybe legit not know we already have pop level data and if we’re going to go targeted, only hitting school kids would be ridiculous?)

And relying on Canada to be governed well forever is self evidently fucking stupid.

Okay, so now we’re back to interviews and actually pulling resources out of the medical system in an attempt to increase friction and maybe move a handful of folks? This seems like a piss poor allocation of resources. Consider that the immunization schedule is generally chosen to be the most advantageous in terms of seasonality etc, so to keep maximum efficacy you’d need government employees (who are expensive) in a communities all across this giant province. So, in a world without infinite money, that means we either don’t get extra nurses, support staff or whatever else we need, or we redirect them from useful front line work.

But to the larger one:

vaccination should become mandatory,

Nope, absolutely not. I may agree with the vaccine schedule now but I cannot ever imagine supporting a government actually going and making its choice of vaccines mandatory. If you have even a casual understanding of history or you’ve been paying any attention to global politics for the last decade, it should be apparent that the government you want to win will not always win. And just because I trust our government now does not mean it will always be so and powers like mandatory vaccination are very hard to take away.

It kind of works in the opposite direction in this case as he’s an anti vaxxer but would you want a nut like RFK being able to compel you to take medicine you didn’t trust?

That is fantastic, no notes.

Lol, okay, what is your meaningful friction that is meaningful but not just a checkmark but also not an interview?

And come on,

Yes, it should be eventually made mandatory

Brings us right back to the beginning:

“So, look Indigenous and other marginalized folks… I know we’ve had some less than great history about mandatory government programs. And yes, childhood education is essential, but if you don’t agree to this mandatory medical program we will not allow your child in school.”

Yeah, I love the notion but good goddamn, that cereal is way above my pay grade.

I think it takes a wild leap to say that the guy who compared being friends and unable to date as smelling wine but not being allowed to drink it, what he really wants is the soulful bond of a romantic relationship in an asexual manner. That’s just a completely wild interpretation supported by nothing other than, I dunno, wanting it to be the case?

It just has to be something more than not showing up or just saying “no thanks” without any extra information.

It really seems like you’re trying to pivot now from this:

that bureaucracy is what I mean with friction that defines what opting out means. Being invited to immunization and having ease to refuse is still opt in to me.

Where the goal was to create friction.

If your position now is that the friction in opting out is actually just recording “why are you opting out” then that’s a pretty silly definition of creating friction . You either have friction with a burdensome process that involves government spending, employees and processes or not.

It really seems like you started talking without really knowing how the system works and have now gone into “okay, I don’t actually want a mandatory system, which was what the article was about and now instead I’d just like some more actionable data.” Which, fine but that is absolutely not making it a mandatory system, nor is is a substantial departure from what we have.

After agreeing that mandatory vaccination probably wasn’t going to work, you then wanted an opt out system, which is what we have, so you wanted it to be harder to opt out and now it’s gone to “okay, you need to tick an extra box and then we’ll act on that data down the road.”