Please calm down, I wasn’t telling you to do anything… I even said that it’s not a pleasant thing to do

I think you read swearing as yelling when it’s a different register as often as it is a different tone.

Best thing to do is not comment on a thread about how that thread is still on active or has a lot of comments, because that’ll keep it on active

No worries! I’d really like to see it, so feel free to tag me in a post or send a DM whenever it is that you come across it again. I’m sure others here would be interested as well!

Absolutely right, not worth getting defederated over

Honestly still more than my city has on some streets

AfD holds multiple municipal seats and Hitler never won an election (he got about 36.7% in 1932). The Nazis took over because liberals (specifically Hindenburg and co) appointed Hitler and then Hitler was able to take over when Hindenburg died in part thanks to paramilitary support. Just worth noting for gauging AfD’s distance from potential takeover.

I highly doubt that the PRC wants them in charge or wants to help them get there, though.

You mean bouncing?

Ah yes, the classic wealthy journalist.

Do the journalists you read personally hand their writings to you? Or is there some intermediary that gets them to you, some wealthy entity that handles the publishing of those writings?

https://www.villagevoice.com/in-search-of-a-soviet-holocaust/

Do you think people don’t have VPNs?

Notably also to make room in the domestic market for the domestic bourgeoisie to fill the roles Facebook, YT, etc. fill elsewhere, since those companies collaborate with the US.

If we used non-western (or even independent western) outlets to talk about something that major western outlets don’t, you’d dismiss it as propaganda and conspiracy theory

But the only time I can ever think of Western media doing anything on the scale of censoring the 1989 Tiananmin Square Massacre is the Iraq MWD debacle.

Aside from the incredible irony of this statement that others have mentioned

the only time I can ever think of Western media doing anything on the scale of

the only time I can ever think of

What leads you to being able to think of examples in China? Was it because you were there and experienced it yourself? Or did you hear about it from people who were there? Did you look through archives in China? Did you see modern reporting from (to pick an arbitrary state) India on this topic?

Or did you hear about it from western media themselves?

Can you see a conflict of interest in that conception of things? Perhaps especially when it comes to reporting on media fabrications in the west?

Edit: Russiagate is a fun example because I don’t give a shit either way, but the Dem-aligned media did an excellent job of convincing their base that Russia first hacked the election and then somehow flipped the election with Facebook ads, and had QAnon-level lore with Igor Fuckstyvich and Boris Shitov in a great web of conspiracy theories to draw connections between people. It was all so tedious that I stopped following it pretty early, but a lot of people still genuinely believe that shit even as it was shown that Russia did very, very little.

Also it keeps evading the notice of liberals that if Russia bought the election, that means Facebook sold it! I think that second one would be much more of a concern, especially since it should be more actionable for the US to control one of its own companies. Whoops.

Edit 2: Consider that most of what you believe about the DPRK is false because the media in the west is just a constant churn of comically bullshit stories. haircuts, anyone?

Do you think the capitalists will work with you? Do you believe that their sense of fraternity and human decency will lead them to throw down arms and accept more radical change to the system than the strikes, protests, and abolition movements that the capitalists have met with mass murder for centuries?

The capitalists are not your friends. Their power will not be voted away, it won’t be argued away, it won’t be negotiated away. It can only be removed by force, and removing it is the only way to keep them from using it to sculpt society into an ever-crueler engine of profiteering.

I’ve gotta respect the riffs, at least

I mean, you did add the edit

they’re a toxic as hell lemmygrad 2.0. Luckily there’s a Lemmy PR that allows instance blocking.

before most of the responses, so I don’t see why you would expect people not to be aggressive. You also accused the site of botting because it’s more active than yours (“10 upvotes in 10 minutes” lol)

(many of whom have since admitted they were funded or straight up supplied with weapons by the US)

I’ve seen obvious evidence about this, e.g. they used petrol bombs at a time when petrol was heavily rationed in China, but I’ve never seen an admission like this. Do you have a source?

Let’s say nobody died, it wasn’t a massacre.

No one is saying no one died (though no one died in the square, which is helpful for spotting when someone is lying)

Those are all flattened bicycles and scared people on the ground.

Yeah, that’s what’s in the one picture

This is still the state sending the military to put down a protest.

The protest had been going on for weeks right on the equivalent of Pennsylvania Avenue in front of the WH and, critically, a couple of unarmed PLA soldiers were burned alive by incendiaries and had their corpses strung up in the open. Some people also stole some guns from inside an APC that got burned (though I think that fire was an accident).

Most protestors left well before the tanks got there because they listened when the state said “disperse by this deadline”. One of the big holdovers besides militants was from people following the leadership that was deliberately trying to instigate bloodshed so they’d have propaganda to exploit (and they said as much in private beforehand!).

Those are tanks from the national government

The entity centered a stone’s throw from the Square, yes

directed at unarmed young adults from the same country right?

Afaik the tanks never fired and they and the other military elements weren’t there to attack protestors. In the Square itself, the highest level of violence was hitting some people with batons to get them to leave. As far as I know, there were no major physical injuries from this. The lethal violence was between soldiers and militants elsewhere.

What would’ve happened had people not dispersed?

Soldiers would have kept getting killed and there probably would have been an attack on the federal buildings right nearby.

Were the tanks and guns just to scare people?

The tanks? Yeah, they wouldn’t even be very useful against the militants unless the CPC wanted to knock down some buildings (which they did not). The guns were mostly for intimidation but also to kill militants who fought the force sent to disperse people.

What would you think of Biden or Trump calling our military to put down protests like what happened in summer of 2020 in the U.S.?

Considering the level of militarized violence used against protestors who killed zero people and the fact that one dude who shot someone in self-defense was literally black-bagged on the President’s direct orders, to say nothing of the many organizers who were killed deliberately outside of the protests and were written off as “suicides” with no note or history of depression . . . I don’t see what you’re trying to say.

Move away from billionaire PR

Do you do anything other than these clumsy deflections?