I don’t get the AOC hate. I mean I understand minor frustrations with him but I feel like a lot of people want to trash him so quick. Like let the dude cook and I think we could have a solid qb. I think with AP and Hardegree he could really fine tune and tweak his few flaws. I think he could be the real deal just get him a solid backup but I think a lot of us fans are sleeping on my boy. He’s been holding his own, especially with so much change during his rookie year. End rant. Stop the raider hate.

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    He isn’t getting time to work through progressions. Frequently, he is getting time for a single look and then his check down.

    An OK QB will thrive behind a top quartile o-line. We have an OK quarterback behind a bottom quartile o-line. This is rookie year Peyton Manning type stuff: even he looked bad behind that o-line.

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      To be fair to the O line though, the pass protection was actually pretty damn good yesterday, I haven’t seen a Raider QB consistently have time in the pocket like that all season. That run blocking though, boy that was awful yesterday Jacobs couldn’t do shit.

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        Yeah. I mentioned in another comment that halfway through the game, I said, “Stop running Jacobs into a wall! It’s not working! Just let the rookie fling it!”

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      Bruh. You can’t seriously compare AOC to Peyton Manning. Chances are that AOC ain’t it. He’s our starter the rest of the year, which is good. He might show us he deserves another year, but I doubt it. To me it looks like he’s going to be a premium backup or a bridge QB when he’s got some experience under his belt. He’s already 25; older than or as old as Lawrence, CJ Stroud, Herbert, Tua, Jalen Hurts.

      AOC understands football. That’s very important for a QB. He doesnt however have the physical attributes that nearly all of todays top QBs have. He’s not extremely precise, he doesn’t move outside of the pocket, he doesn’t go through progressions well. Some of that might get better with coaching, but again, the guy is 25. This isn’t like a 20 year old coming out of college. Our brains stop developing in the mid 20s.

      Anyone hating the guy is an idiot; he’s a 4th round rookie thrust into a starting role under a first time HC with a first time playcaller. That doesn’t mean that you can’t watch him play and come to the conclusion that he ain’t it though.

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        NOBODY is going to be a top 15 QB behind the Raiders line, so we should be realistic about what the ceiling is for QB on the Raiders right now. Even an amazing QB like Manning couldn’t overcome a crap line.

        I watched every game of AOC’s college career, many of them in-person. I am not sure I have ever seen a QB that is more influenced by his line play.

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      With all due respect to AOC and his talent…we’re comparing 4th round QBs to former Heisman candidates now?