Oh. Now it plummets.
Not when he… you know… openly advocated funding terrorists so as to sabotage peace talks.
Or when he… tried to weaken the judicial branch to strengthen his own political power and keep them from being … an asshole.
There were mass protests with his judicial bs, to be fair. I guess now the right wing people are mad with him too?
Yup. There were.
There’s a lot of signs even before for that, too. Guess I’m being snarky at clickbaity headlines,
This might seem like splitting hairs but he didn’t openly advocate propping up Hamas to weaken the PA and discredit the idea of a Palestinian state. He’s reported to have said that specifically during a private party meeting. To anyone who’s paid attention to his revolting policies, I don’t think it was surprising to learn but he’s never publicly said anything like that. It’s not like he campaigned on it.
I cant quite work out why a population of people that escaped persecution and genocide are against Netanyahu a terrorist who is responsible for genocide. /s
Kick him out and reelect him immediately. It worked twenty times already.
Netanyahu and Hamas have spent decades propping eachother up in a symbiotic relationship driving people on both sides towards militant extremism. Netanyahu’s security theater politics only ever benefited from Hamas terror attacks within Israel, and in return he and his administration preferred Hamas over more peaceful and legitimate Palestinian movements. Both of them always wanted a fight, and now that’s exactly what they’ve got.
In other words, they were made for eachother and neither has any business leading their respective lands.
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Probably not, the problem is that even at this point the most a left wing government is incentivized to do is to deport WB settlers back to their countries of origin, and that’s purely because those guys overwhelmingly vote likkud and their ilk.
I don’t think even the Arab Israeli party is for the solutions that would actually quell Hamas for the long run, that being to abolish the division between Israel and Palestine and establish a city state based confederation with absolute protection of civil rights and internal freedom of movement.
Complete with the seizure of war leader assets to serve as reparations to victims of the wars across either side of the border, it’d serve to liberate Palestinians and Israelis from the true enemy, their authoritarian leaders who are allies in all but status in keeping their people oppressed and away from the ability to democratically hold them to account.
Israel might call itself a democracy but the right has every incentive to just keep crashing governments until they win big enough just from fatiguing any would be opposition over repeated votes. Meanwhile Hamas governs a territory where half the population wasn’t even alive yet when they last won an election, one I only don’t suspect foul play in since the Muslim Brotherhood and related parties apparently tend to do well when an Arab state gives democracy a first spin.
Golda Meir lost her position due to intel failures regarding Yom Kippur war. this was a shocking failure of intelligence and basic border control. Meir lost her position only after the guns stopped firing.
A similar thing happened to Menachem Begin, who was forced into retirement after the failure of the Lebanon invasion in 1982 and the international opprobrium heaped Israel’s way after it essentially winked at a massacre of Palestinian civilians by Lebanese Christian militiamen later that year. But again, Begin was only forced out after Israel had pulled back to defensive positions in Southern Lebanon and its forces were no longer engaged in heavy combat.
Bibi is so busy trying to undo Israeli liberty and stay out of jail he did botch this and fate will not treat him kindly, and Bibi will be out once the shooting is over.
Hamas owes their existence to this man.
Had a terrorist attack on his watch. And even then, botch the retaliation. He really thought killing innocent people/genocide was a good idea?
Netanyahu needs to go
And it was already low before the war. His right-wing coalition failed to gain a majority of votes, even if they won the Knesset.
There were also wide-spread protests against the judicial reform he was trying to push through. Relevant wikipedia article:
Since the beginning of the protest movement against the judicial overhaul, The Times of Israel has written that protesters were faced with a continuous question of “how much, if at all, should the demonstrations focus on Palestinian rights?” … hundreds of Israeli and American academics published a statement claiming that the ultimate purpose of the judicial overhaul was to “annex more land, and ethnically cleanse all territories under Israeli rule of their Palestinian population”. The statement characterized that the Palestinian population living under the Israeli-occupied territories in the West Bank and Gaza as living under apartheid, and it criticized Jewish American leaders for paying insufficient attention to this “elephant in the room.” … One of the group’s members told Haaretz that the overhaul had led the protestors to connect the judicial overhaul to the occupation after looking at the politicians pushing the reforms, who are all settlers: Smotrich, Rothman and Ben-Gvir. On 9 September 2023, a statement signed by over 3,500 Israeli academics, artists, writers and former officials called on U.S. President Joe Biden and United Nations Secretary-General António Guterres to avoid meeting with Netanyahu, claiming that the ruling government undermined Israeli democracy and was “ignoring the historical conflict that is tearing Israel apart – the forceful domination of the Palestinian people.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Israeli_judicial_reform_protests
For those wondering about Ben-Gvir, another copy-paste:
Itamar Ben-Gvir … is an Israeli lawyer and far-right politician who serves as the Minister of National Security. … Ben-Gvir, a settler in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, has faced charges of hate speech against Arabs and was known to have a portrait in his living room of Israeli-American terrorist Baruch Goldstein, who massacred 29 Palestinian Muslim worshipers and wounded 125 others in Hebron, in the 1994 Cave of the Patriarchs massacre. … He was also previously convicted of supporting a terrorist group known as Kach, which espoused Kahanism, an extremist religious Zionist ideology. … Under his leadership, the Otzma Yehudit (Jewish Power), a party which espouses Kahanism and anti-Arabism, won six seats in the 2022 Israeli legislative election … He has called for the expulsion of Arab citizens of Israel who are not loyal to Israel. Ben Gvir is “widely known for his openly racist, anti-Arab views and activities” … led several visits to the Temple Mount as activist and member of Knesset, contentious marches through Jerusalem’s Old City Muslim Quarter, and set up an office in the Sheikh Jarrah neighborhood which witnessed several evictions of Palestinians. On 3 January 2023, he visited the Temple Mount where the al-Aqsa Mosque is located, spurring an international wave of criticism that labelled his visit purposely provocative. As a lawyer, he is known for defending Jewish radicals and terrorists on trial in Israel. … Prior to entering politics, he defended Jews spitting at Christians as a “an ancient Jewish custom”. … Ben-Gvir is married to Ayala Nimrodi… The couple has five children, and they live in the Israeli settlement of Kiryat Arba/Hebron, which is deemed illegal under international law, in the Israeli-occupied West Bank.
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At Israel’s darkest moment, they needed a strong leader who would do what needs to be done. Bibi is the perfect man for the current job, but after this current war ends his position is untenable.
Strong leader pffft. His weakness is what caused this string of events. More than any man right now it’s his fault. He wanted this.
No, Zionism is what caused it, there is no possible way such a failing of security happens by itself someone made this happen and the zionist who’s been paying hamas is your likely plotter.
“The zionist paying Hamas” yes, we’re talking about him right now.
That’s my point and why I phrased it as such.
Ah right, the Zionist who’s been paying Hamas. The totally real guy that hangs out with all the communists who vote for Trump and the vegans who own cattle farms.
No, the guy who was caught shipping bags full of cash to hamas, it’s objective fact.
It says right in the article that the money isn’t going to Hamas…
“Now that we are supervising, we know it’s going to humanitarian causes,”
Three humanitarian causes that Israel claim Hamas robs from. Add that’s literally one incident in a list of half a dozen.
You realize, of course that your hero did everything he could to create this “darkest moment”? That he helped Hamas take power in Gaza, and hold power and conduct their reign of terror?
He pretty much pulled a Palpatine, sparking this conflict and feeding off it.
A strong leader would have made peace- restored palistinians their rights, given them a voice in the government, stopped “settlers” from forcibly taking land and home.
A strong leader would have done this, not just because it’s the right fucking thing to do; but because it’s the only way the state of Israel will ever be free of the constant violent threat of terrorism.
War does not make peace. And this bullshit your “hero” is pulling, is only making more terrorists. Lots more.
(Oh and because sources matter 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. There’s more if you’d like to just Google around a bit, but those should perhaps offer some… clarity.)
He’s about as good for Israel as Hamas is good for Palestine.
He’s perfect for an 8x8 box and not much else
