I became a rams fan solely because of Goff, Gurley, Donald, Suh and McVay.
The last two-three years have been incredibly difficult.
People want there to be a winner/loser to a trade so bad. Sometimes motives for a trade are different. Both teams achieved their motive, and the league is better for it
Yeah, Rams needed a QB to get them over the edge, Lions needed draft picks to rebuild. We got really lucky that Goff was also a long term solution and it sped up the rebuild a lot. Lions also weren’t going to be able to win a Super Bowl with Stafford and not the extra draft capital. Both teams are better off for the trade, nobody regrets it, nobody lost
One has a super bowl ring and the other is top 5 for the year.
Seems like a win/win trade if there ever was one
I’m not sure Goff is a top 5 QB this year but he’s up there.
He’s not, but definitely top 10 or 12.
I’d say top 10 at worst. Mahomes, Burrow, Allen are all clearly ahead. I think (at least this year) he’s in that Herbert/Jackson/Hurt tier
allen is not ahead, this year at least
Put Goff on the Bills, with no running game and no OC, and it wouldn’t be pretty either.
It was the perfect trade.
Even if Stafford retires tomorrow and Goff goes on to win a superbowl this season, its still a win win trade both ways
The Goff and Mcvay relationship had deteriorated. Badly. Goff needed a hard reset and to be humbled a little. Thats built him into the QB he is today. Mcvay just needed someone with slight more talent (at the time mind you) to put all the chips in on and make a run. They both come out winners. Rooting for Jared. Stafford is still good but i am curious to see if rams are gonna move him and just opt for a fresh QB in the building
Yeah, they did what they wanted and won a SB in that window
There’s not a doubt in my mind that there is nothing more mcvay wants to see outside of success for the rams than success for Jared Goff. There was no animosity but the project had run its course and it was clear who was holding the team back. Andrew Whitworth I believe has come out and said Goff asked for a sit down with mcvay after the trade that was essentially a debriefing of what went wrong and how he could improve as a player.
It’s like the girl you broke up with because you were going to different colleges, and you both found someone great who you worked out with perfectly. But her perfect is marrying a dude who’s dad runs a fortune 500 and he’s got a 7 figure salary out of college, and your perfect is you and your wife both work high 5 figure jobs, 5 days a week.
I feel personally attacked by that entire second paragraph
If the Lions win it all this year, while a win/win, we have the better end because we are built for the long term unlike LA was. That being said it’s all about the rings so they have won it thus far
Can’t be a win-win if one team got a SB and the other hasn’t (yet). Not saying the Lions lost, but the jury is still out on them.
Until you realize that the Rams still would have won it with Goff.
Top 5 where? On the Lions?
They got a cup we got our guy
Another rare feat of a win/win trade. Definitely didn’t look like that the first year but from the bye last year to now. Goff has been playing like a top 5-7 qb to warrant keeping him(he showed flashes though earlier than that but it was then where he kept it going)
Rams won on their part
Lions are probably going to be in QB purgatory for the next 3-4 years. If they win a playoff game I’d say both parties won.
I honestly agree. Goff seems good enough that it’s hard to justify replacing him but not good enough to truly elevate a team on his own. I feel like we’re probably going to spend a couple years making shallow playoff runs/losing other talent in order to truly recognize it
I don’t really give Stafford that much credit for the Super Bowl (which is the argument people use to say it was a great trade). Let’s try to be objective. In 2019 the Rams (with Goff) lost to the New England Patriots, Tom Brady and Belichick. They lost to a dynasty that was making its 3rd straight Super Bowl.
In 2022 the Rams (with Stafford) got lucky against the 49ers (interception should have been caught to end game). Then they faced the Bengals in Super Bowl. As much as you might like the Bengals and Burrow, not the same as playing against the Patriots, Brady and Belichick.
So in totality, I don’t think Stafford was the reason Rams won the SB; nor do I think Goff was reason Rams lost the SB.
Do I think Stafford is better QB than Goff… the jury is out.
Staffords playoff run in 2021 was head and shoulders better than any of Goffs playoff performances.
Goff has improved a lot now no question. He’s played like a top 10 at times top 5 QB. Let’s see how it goes in the postseason.
Rams have a Super Bowl ring and the lions have welllll … no rings … Rams won that deal
I feel like people are trying to math a way to the Rams losing this trade. They won a Super Bowl, they won the trade. The Lions also won the trade.
The Rams got a ring. The Lions got substantial tools to rebuild and are currently threatening to take the NFC one-seed.
There are no losers in this trade.
Seriously, i’d give up the next 20 years of Falcons football for a Super Bowl, as would most other non-spoiled teams (ie. Patriots).
As a Lions fan, Agree. Stafford was never going to win a SB in Detroit, and Goffs situation in LA was going to just get more toxic. This worked for both parties. Everyone is happy.
If the Lions can win a Super Bowl and contend for other years, could probably make the statement they win the trade as it appears Rams are one and done.
But Super Bowl > Anything
It’s literally this easy, the rams did not make that move with long term in mind, they wanted to win that year and they did. It worked. Lions wanted to rebuild and it set the rebuild up perfectly. I don’t think either side is disappointed with how it’s turned out. Rams knew very well this would happen a couple of years after.
This is how trades are literally supposed to work. If you aren’t contending for championships right now, trade your aging high-value assets in exchange for pieces to rebuild. If you ARE contending for championships, sell out your future for pieces to win immediately. Worked out perfectly for both sides.
Any Rams fans who act like we lost this trade are just exposing themselves as the most Laker fans of all Lakers fans and don’t know what it’s like to watch a team that doesn’t win all the time
No complaints :)
Call it naivete if you want, but the Rams thought the trade was good for both the present (2021 season) and the long term. The present is obvious, but they felt they had a guy they’d get many good years from in Stafford and that they were only a QB away. They had been dealing away high picks (while quietly accumulating late picks) for years and the system stayed sustainable so they figured they could keep it going. Things falling apart in 2022 was not according to plan though to be fair, no one thought the Rams would collapse like that before the season started. This year, moves were made in a reaction to 2022 to rebuil–err–“re-tool”. But even then, the idea has been Stafford is our long term QB and we’ll be a contender again in 2024 with all our picks and a lot of open cap space. You can call some of that delusional, but that’s been the thinking from this team.
I believe it, just unlikely they’ll be able to contend with such an aging roster. But again, they got the super bowl, I’d say it was a success even if they win less than 5 games each of the next 5 years lol
Rams have the 2nd youngest roster in the league.
Yeah I’m not sure how much I agree with some of the post-championship decisions the team has made, but everything is worth it because we won the Super Bowl. Really hoping you guys get yours. Would love it for Lions fans and would love it for Goff.
hope the lions go and get one with him
Stop it with this rational take of yours! We need a sexy headline and somebody has to be a loser of the trade!
I think the Rams got exactly what they were hoping for. So win for them.
I think the Lions have probably gotten more out of Goff than they expected. So win for them, with the possibility that he can still take the team to at least a conference championship in the next year or two.
We both won. They got a super bowl, we’re no longer irrelevant.
Correct. I remember morons on podcasts saying if the rams lost the Super Bowl they would have lost the trade which is equally stupid but there’s no way the rams lose the trade with a ring. And lions are gaining ground every week cuz of how Goff plays.
growing up watching stafford it was hard to get away from wanting that gunslinger bombs away qb but goff’s style is really growing on me and can be fun to watch him march down the field and really be a field general, win win trade 100%
Lions bros yall happy?
Cuz Rams bros are happyLions get to watch Staff get a ring and the rams get to watch Goff cook again like we all knew he could.
Rams <> Lions friendship was a bonus to the trade for sure
Its actually like this >< So we can touch tips
Agreed. I’ll always cheer for Goff.
I don’t get why we keep doing this. Both teams won.
One was broken when he was traded and one wasn’t broken, The not broken one won a Super Bowl and has been broken ever since, The broken QB is no longer broken having found a new home to heal and grow with
One has superbowl.
The other does not.
Revisit this question when both players are retired.
You’re welcome, now STFU.
Ones old and got a ring and one is in his prime with no playoffs yet.
Literally EXACTLY like I envisioned