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The police in Berlin said they had blocked over half of the 41 scheduled Gaza solidarity protests, sometimes on the grounds that they would “emotionalize” residents of Palestinian origin. These included a children’s demonstration to mourn the Palestinian children killed by Israeli strikes in the past month. Permitted protests were banned from using slogans such as “stop the war” and “free Palestine.”

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    Genuine question, when will Germany stop simping for Israel? I get it, Hitler did the Holocaust, but that’s gone. It’s history. Hitler is gone and so are his goons. I think it’s time to move on and just think logically. It’s kinda pathetic at this point.

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      Never, because just like everyone else we get drowned in propaganda of how even entertaining the idea to not slaughter Palestinian children is somehow unbridled support for Hamas terrorism.

      That being said, the part of the population not toally dumbed down yet to just parrot narratives often seems to be moving in the exact different direction and usually pushes back against a public discussion that purely consists of narratives and attempts to stifle every nuanced discussion. (PS: Ohh… and the right wing morons also have suddenly dicovered their love for Israel as anti-islam messages seem more important for fascists right now than anti-semitism. So at least half the messaging at the moment consists of talk about all those evil antisemitic leftists or some other delusion they love to spread. That’s the real historic joke here: pseudo-nazis supporting Israel against evil muslims.)

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        Idk what parts you’re from but nobody i know thinks the way you describe. Not sure where you’re getting force fed propaganda.

        Everyone here knows the hamas attack was cruel and must be judged. And independent from that also knows that bombing civilians to shit doesn’t solve anything and should be punished as war crimes.

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          I want to hear the German government say exactly this. I’d love to hear “hey Hamas, fuck you, you terrorist fucks. Don’t kill Israeli civilians. Hey Israel, fuck you, too, if you continue killing children. Stop your war crimes”. They are not saying anything to condemn Israel’s obvious war crimes. It’s such a sad thing to see.

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          Everyone here knows the hamas attack was cruel and must be judged. And independent from that also knows that bombing civilians to shit doesn’t solve anything and should be punished as war crimes.

          That’s exactly what I said… and now find me a similiar statement in the mainstream media or from politicians in general. Good luck…

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        Dude, it‘s just not that different here than in other countries in the west. France, England, USA, there are the same debates. I don‘t know why you keep pushing this narrative, that we have some special propaganda here.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Since fleeing Syria a decade ago, Wafa Mustafa has spoken out for political prisoners at the United Nations, held vigils outside war crimes trials and chanted in solidarity with Iranians protesting their authoritarian government.

    Nowhere has the debate over what is legal and legitimate expression of dissent been more fraught than in Germany, where it has struck at the heart of how the nation defines itself, and prompted questions about which values should be prioritized at the cost of others.

    Germans defending the restrictions note that the country has a less permissive stance on free speech than many democracies for subjects beyond Israel, a legacy of World War II and how the Nazis exploited the democratic process to seize power.

    Last month, the police detained a woman standing in a Berlin square after she refused to put down a poster that read, “As a Jew and Israeli: Stop the genocide in Gaza.”

    Over 100 Jewish writers, artists and academics signed a letter condemning Germany’s practices: “If this is an attempt to atone for German history, its effect is to risk repeating it.”

    In August, childhood classmates of Bavaria’s finance minister, Hubert Aiwanger, said he once distributed an antisemitic flier and gave Nazi salutes — accusations he either dismissed as youthful defiance or denied.


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