The moon rotates once per revolution around the Earth, but that’s not a coincidence. Somehow the rotation and revolution are connected to each other. Some force is keeping them the same. How exactly does that work?

  • jasparagus@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Here’s a good explainer:

    What is tidal locking? https://phys.org/news/2015-11-tidal.html

    Basically, the moon acted like a spinning (unbalanced) wheel, and eventually stopped with the “heavy” side pointing “down” towards Earth. I.e. think of the moon as orbiting Earth with the heavy side staying pointed at Earth.

  • WFH@lemmy.world
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    All the large moons in the solar system are tidally locked to their planet!

    Pluto and Charon are tidally locked to each other!

    The earth would eventually be tidally locked to the moon too, but because it’s happening so slowly, it wouldn’t happen before the sun turns into a red giant and engulf both!

    • TheWoozy@lemmy.fmhy.ml
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      1 year ago

      There is such a huge difference in the masses of the earth and moon that although the moon is slowing the rotation of the earth, the earth’s rotation is also speeding up the moon’s orbit. The faster orbit is causing the moon to move farther away from the earth.

  • j4k3@lemmy.world
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    To really blow your mind, the Moon is slowly moving away, but will never escape. Eventually both the Earth and the Moon will become tidally locked to each other at which point the Moon will no longer move further away. This assumes no outside influences and enough time.

  • Kyle
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    1 year ago

    The other links and explainers are better resources, but for a fun discussion as far as I know: most bodies are very likely to end up tidally locked if they are close enough. For large moons, this can happen pretty early. For other systems, it could take so long that their suns will go supernova before that happens.

    • Hypersapien@lemmy.worldOP
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      1 year ago

      So why doesn’t the moon rotate around the axis that’s on the line that points from the Earth to the moon? The “Z” axis as we look into the sky?

      Or does it?

      • nottheengineer@feddit.de
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        1 year ago

        Try recreating that spin with a fidget spinner and slowly turn it around like the moon turns to face earth. You’ll find that it wants to turn in a way where it spins around the same axis it’s orbiting.

        Since the moon has no hand preventing it from doing that, it aligns its spin with the orbit, so the forces described in the article bring that rotation to a halt.

  • Jeena@jemmy.jeena.net
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    It’s not some force keeping them the same, it’s no force changes the speed of the moon. From my limited understanding the moon was created when a smaller planet crashed into the earth:

    They both got the same momentum, therefor they started rotating at the same speed, once per day.

    There is nothing out there which would be able to change the speed of the rotation of the moon. There is also nothing which would change the speed of the rotation of the earth. Therefor they keep spinning at the same speed.

    • TheWoozy@lemmy.fmhy.ml
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      1 year ago

      The moon rotates about once every 28ish days, the same as it’s orbit. That’s what being tidally locked means.

    • Hypersapien@lemmy.worldOP
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      1 year ago

      Other people have explained it, and the same thing happens with other moons in the solar system, including some orbiting gas giants where your explanation couldn’t have worked.

      The Earth’s gravitational field elongates the moon slightly, and an elongated satellite tends more to stabilize its rotation with the longer diameter fixed to point at the center of its orbit.