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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlM to United States | News & Politics@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 years ago

US can't produce as much munitions as Russia, even though US spends $800B+/y on defence 🤡

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US can't produce as much munitions as Russia, even though US spends $800B+/y on defence 🤡

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlM to United States | News & Politics@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 years ago
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Shai Assad: US can't produce as much munitions as Russia, even though US spends $800B+/y on defense
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A former Pentagon official claims that the US is lagging behind Russia in producing munitions, despite spending a whopping $800 billion a year on defense. Sh...
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  • DiggV4@sh.itjust.works
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    The actual article: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/weapons-contractors-price-gouging-pentagon-60-minutes-transcript-2023-05-21/

    No mention of Russia or $800 billion.

    It’s not even how you spell the guy’s name.

    Get better at propaganda.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOPM
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      Literally the first thing he says in the 60 minutes interview is that US is lagging behind Russia in producing munitions, meanwhile here’s the DoD budget which is 842 billion.

      On March 9, 2023, the Biden-Harris Administration submitted to Congress a proposed Fiscal Year (FY) 2024 Budget request of $842 billion for the Department of Defense (DoD), an increase of $26 billion over FY 2023 levels and $100 billion more than FY 2022.

      Get better at trolling.

      • DiggV4@sh.itjust.works
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        You intentionally posted some derived work that showed the actual interview in the background while some random guy told people what to think. Just post actual news.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOPM
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          What I posted is a clip from the 60 minutes interview with a Pentagon official responsible for procurement who plainly states that US lags behind Russia in ammunition production. This is actual news, not sure why you keep trying to pretend otherwise. Wonder what your agenda is here. 🤔

          • DiggV4@sh.itjust.works
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            That isn’t what you did, and you know it. It’s someone else speaking over the video footage. Someone who couldn’t even spell the interviewee’s name right.

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOPM
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              Nothing that I said is factually incorrect. Ukraine is currently firing 110k shell a month:

              At the start of March, Ukraine was reportedly firing 110,000 artillery shells a month, and requested allies to supply enough to bring that number up to 250,000. According to British analysts, Ukraine’s artillery usage would exhaust the entire UK stockpile in eight days.

              US is hoping to produce 20k shells a month at some point:

              U.S. officials say they hope soon to be producing 20,000 shells per month from U.S. plants, rising to 40,000 within two years – a programme that requires new factories, new machine tools and a desperate search for staff in an environment where arms firms find vacancies difficult to fill.

              https://www.reuters.com/world/global-ammunition-race-may-decide-ukraine-war-peter-apps-2023-05-04/

              Meanwhile, here’s the number of shells Russia was producing monthly before the war started, this has since increased

              • https://jamestown.org/program/russia-struggles-to-maintain-munition-stocks-part-one/
              • https://jamestown.org/program/russia-struggles-to-maintain-munition-stocks-part-two/

              So, once again, I have to ask you what you think you’re disputing here.

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        bro do you actually spend all day doing this?

        what’s the pay?

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOPM
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          wow that’s so original

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            I’m just saying bro, you on the career track. You keep making these numbers you’ll get your Christmas bonus FOSHO

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOPM
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              the fact that you actually took the time to write this comment says a lot about you as a person

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                awwww. kith me beybe. let’s make up.

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    But who can make the most munitions that actually work?

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      The side that managed to prevent Ukraine from getting to the first line of defence after a three week offensive.

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    Sure, bro. Keep telling yourself that. Big bad Russia couldn’t even take Ukraine.

    This is what happens when you get your news from YouTube. You get brain rot.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOPM
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      Can’t wait to see what tune you’ll be singing when US pulls out of the proxy war.

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        When the invading forces goes back to their country, this will be over. Also, it’s too strategically efficient to let Russian use its resources in Ukraine. Politics and morality aside this is an opportunity of a lifetime for western counties. Russia has already lost 1/3 of its armor, and what they have left is antique. It’s a real cone true for neocons.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOPM
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          The west is losing this war, but western media managed to convince a lot of ignorant westerners that things are going great. Once this offensive burns itself out, there are no more weapons to give because the west destroyed its industrial base and moved it to places like China. Russia on the other hand still has its industry that it inherited from USSR.

          Russia spent over half a year depleting Ukrainian air defence with a huge missile campaign, building layered defence fortifications, and preparing half a million troops to hold off the offensive that Ukraine is now attempting. The offensive is going so badly that even western media now openly admits it https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/22/politics/ukraine-counteroffensive-western-assessment/index.html

          The original plan was for Ukraine to make a major breakthrough within the first 24 hours or it was going to be game over https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/04/18/ukraine-russia-war-counteroffensive-attack-bakhmut-himars/

          It’s been three weeks, and Ukraine hasn’t reached the first line of defence yet

          Russia turned this into a war of attrition, and that plays in Russia’s favor. Don’t take my word for it though. Here’s what U.S. Lt. Col. Alex Vershinin retired after 20 years of service, including eight years as an armor officer with four combat tours in Iraq and Afghanistan and 12 years working as a modeling and simulations officer in NATO and U.S. Army concept development and experimentation had to say:

          https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine

          Finally, if Russia actually started losing then China would step in. China realizes that they’re next, and Russia acts as a shield for them in the west, and it provides them with the resources they need. China’s industrial base absolutely dwarfs anything that the west has.

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            Lol @ China.

            China doesn’t give two shits about Russia. And China is addicted to western consumerism. They’re just happy to benefit from the demise of Russia as anyone else. China is going to fuck off, like they have this whole time.

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOPM
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              Thanks for confirming that you don’t have a clue regarding the subject you’re attempting to debate.

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                You’re always confused. Not even sure you have the desire to have a meaningful discussion on anything.

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOPM
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                  I gave you a long and detailed explanation and you responded with utter nonsense, now you’re accusing me of not wanting to have a meaningful discussion. 🤡

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