I have so many friends who would 100% be labeled as an incel if they were men. They hold men to impossibly high standards while meeting none of those standards themselves.

For example, women living with parents while expecting men to have their own place, women who are obese but are only interested in fit men, working part time while expecting a man who has a career, refusing to drive and expecting men to chauffeur them around, expecting men to have a variety of friends and interests while doing nothing but watching TV all day, etc.

The worst part is, calling out this inequality will 100% get any man labeled as an incel. We’re expected to either deal with it or be alone forever.

This is NOT to undermine the very real issues women have to deal with, for example the loss of bodily autonomy in the US. But this is still an issue worth discussing and nobody is talking about it.

  • Album
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    8 months ago

    How are those things even remotely comparable?

    Are you saying that by my identification of your general attitude towards women - generalizing them all as do-nothing, expect everything - somehow is the same as denying that people need abortions?

    The problem with incels is their lack of self introspection and the assignment of all their problems to an external cause - a small percentage of society with unrealistically high standards - which is not something even specific to women.

    A well adjusted person just thinks - “Gee i don’t want to associate with that type of person and I understand that it’s a small subset of the total population of women. Let me work towards finding women who have realistic expectations which is the majority while simultaneously looking at myself to understand why women with realistic expectations might still not be interested in me”

    Vs the incel who gets on the internet to rage that all women are staceys and are only interested in chads. The problem isn’t me it’s everyone else!

    • ElleChaise@kbin.social
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      8 months ago

      your general attitude towards women - generalizing them all as do-nothing, expect everything -

      Album, breathe. You’re the only one who’s making this post about that. What you’re doing is exactly like when incels get mad and brigade the feminist forums to say “not all men”.

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        8 months ago

        For example, women living with parents while expecting men to have their own place, women who are obese but are only interested in fit men, working part time while expecting a man who has a career, refusing to drive and expecting men to chauffeur them around, expecting men to have a variety of friends and interests while doing nothing but watching TV all day, etc.

        OP’s words verbatim.