cross-posted from: https://lemmy.stad.social/post/20808

I’m shocked. Shocked, I tell you. I’d never imagine that nice Mr. Musk would do that… Oh? He’s been a total ass to workers at his other companies too you say? No, say it isn’t so…

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      Technology doesn’t spring from the ground from nothing. Labor in tech is still important tech news.

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        Not when it’s just another article about Musk being shitty. This isn’t news, and I doubt anyone is shocked that he fired someone illegally.

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        by that reasoning we don’t need magazines since it’s all part of the same universe.

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            I wasn’t trying to put a show for you. I only followed the stupid claim to it’s stupid conclusion.

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              “X is not in category Y”

              “X creates Y and is relevant. X news is still important Y news”

              “By that reasoning we don’t need X since it’s all a part of Y”

              Your conclusion is entirely non-sequitur to anything anyone else has said. Whether your original post was right or wrong, your reasoning is nonsense.

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                The mental gymnastics people go through to miss the point. I will try to make thos short so you don’t get confused again. Non tech news should be shared in generic news or specific groups related to the topic.

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                  I was never arguing that. I’m arguing that your “we don’t need magazines since it’s all part of the same universe” is complete nonsense that’s not relevant to anything being stated.

                  Though if I’m gonna argue about your initial point, you’re also wrong and foolish there, albeit it to a lesser degree. Unfortunately X, the platform formerly known as some shit, is a “Big Tech” company. In fact it’s one of the biggest. Now, you may or may not be familiar with this, but the “Tech” in “big tech” is short for “technology”, marking Twitter, the platform formerly known as shit, a monolith in an extremely large and broad industry.

                  As a result, that which is news-worthy for such a monolith is precisely what technology forums such as [email protected] are for. It would also be relevant if Facebook lost 50% of its valuation in a day. It would also be relevant if Instagram started giving employees free heroine. It would also be relevant if Google harvested all the world’s oysters in search of black pearls.

                  These companies are so large they they, defacto, are tech in a manner of speaking. Just because you’re tired of hearing about some rich dork whose racist father hates him, the man formerly known as Eyore Must or something, doesn’t mean that it’s any less of a tech company, and doesn’t make news about it any less “about tech” as an industry.

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          That actually makes zero sense. Labor builds and creates the tech that people talk about. That makes labor extremely important to tech.

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            that makes zero sense. without a universe to live in we can’t even have labor.

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                the point hes trying to make is that just because x relies on y, that doesnt make y relevant to the topic of x.

                so labor, while needed for tech, doesnt belong in tech. just like if i started posting about food shortages here, i could argue that food is needed for tech, but it does not belong in tech.

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                    i accidentally deleted instead of edited my coment:

                    original:

                    i dont agree. thats not about technology. thats about the people at a tech-related loction not being able to eat. thats the lacroix of tech news if anything.


                    i think id be fine with even something like this or even this musk news if it wasnt in such high volume from something so indirect to actual technology posts. the frequency of these is so tiring.

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                    i dont agree. thats not about technology. thats about the people at a tech-related loction not being able to eat. thats the lacroix of tech news if anything.

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      They’re literally at the crossroads of technology, and it’s going to get much worse as people ignore the reality of that fact.

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      Yeah, I was hoping that this community wouldn’t become a Musk news feed like it was on Reddit, but here we are.

      It would be nice if a technology community could actually be about technology.

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        I was hoping it wouldn’t be all press release copy pasta from scam battery companies and “AI” grifts. But here we are. I’d prefer it cover actual technology that actually exists, but the odds of that are zero these days.

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        Lemmy is pretty much just an Elon feed and it’s annoying AF. I get it, Elon is a shit human. I personally don’t want to promote shit humans, even if it’s to talk shit about them. Let X die

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            Or, you know, seeing as you guys are the ones being downvoted into the negative, you could take your own advice and start your own Elon-free tech community. Nothing is stopping you.

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              the popular answer does not equal the right answer. this is called c/technology. before you spin that elon is in tech so how he picks his nose matters, it doesnt.

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                How he picks his nose doesn’t matter. How he runs a tech company and how he affects people working in tech does.

                And the popular answer does equal the right answer when the question is “does this community think this question is relevant to this community?” The votes are literally this community telling you whether or not it thinks that is true.

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                  No, the antics of a tech company owner are not relevant to a technology sub.

                  Musk is a shitty person. This is not news. We don’t need a running ticker on what bullshit he’s done now.

                  All you’re doing is giving a narcissistic bully exactly what he wants - attention.

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                    No, the antics of a tech company owner are not relevant to a technology sub.

                    The votes prove you wrong, no matter what your opinion on it is. You’re free to disagree, but the notion that the people who make up this community are not the arbiters of what is and is not relevant to a community flies directly in the face of the very foundation Lemmy is built on.

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                    All you’re doing is giving a narcissistic bully exactly what he wants - attention.

                    I don’t know about that. I don’t think laughing hysterically at how stupid he is is what he wants. That’s actually the best way to hurt narcissistic bullies – mocking them and laughing at them.

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      Then why didn’t you make the technology labor and make you not see it to begin with, HMMMMM, TEASHIPS, some /s in there because it’s this timeline.