Does Spotify have a way to see if your computer is recording with your DAC’s stereo mix? And if so, is there a way around it?

  • folkrav@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I don’t know how they’d know unless they could read your computer’s process list or something like that… And even then, how would they know if a process is recording or just receiving audio?

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        1 year ago

        But how would they detect that watermark being recorded by a complete separate process or hardware output?

        • 𝒍𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒏@lemmy.one
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          1 year ago

          They probably scan audio tracks uploaded to music sharing sites, a few online streaming services do this for video to identify accounts ripping the content.

          If you’re doing it for personal use I see nothing to worry about

          • GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org
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            1 year ago

            I know that this is possible, but I’ve never actually heard of it being done on streaming sites. I’ve only heard of it with e.g. prerelease copies of movies sent to critics or something like that.

            Any idea which sites do that?

            • 𝒍𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒏@lemmy.one
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              1 year ago

              Crunchyroll used to (very blatantly) but I don’t think they do that anymore.

              No idea of any other on-demand streamers using it unfortunately, however WWE, warner bros, FIFA, formula 1 and a bunch of sports organisations with their own subscription service use this tech in a transparent way to kill IPTV streams quickly

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        1 year ago

        Which might be good for detecting if somebody somewhat widely distributed a recorded copy, but not if it was just for personal use. Also, if the capture process creates loss there’s a good chance it might degrade the watermark as well

        • Norah - She/They@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          1 year ago

          Not even just the capture process. Re-encoding the track to release it into anything lossy, even at a high bitrate, is going to destroy anything that’s inaudible. It would be like trying to read the microprint on the photocopy of a photocopy of a bank note. It’s not going to happen.

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          1 year ago

          Record with two devices, compare and strip everything away that they do not have in common

        • m-p{3}A
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          1 year ago

          Depends on the watermark tech used, for example Cinavia is resilient to compression.