Hell of a lot to unpack here, but I’ll throw something out that many might not have seen.
A footnote in the decision says the investigation later revealed that Laramore had two rounds in his .45 pistol and he fired them both.
A self-defense gun is not a magic kill machine. Nor is it a, “Get off me!” talisman. And it goes without saying a gun is certainly not a, “Look at my gun and go away!” option. Pulling a gun on another human being says, “I intend to kill you to stop what you’re doing.” Pulling a gun is the end of ALL options. Full stop.
All that to say, Laramore was not prepared to kill anyone with 2 rounds in his gun. He should never have picked it up if he wasn’t trained and prepared for self-defense. Guns are not fucking toys, and I have a solid feeling Laramore thought, well… whatever he thought was clearly wrong.
No, this is not victim blaming, just an observation that hopefully reaches anyone with a gun on their nightstand or thinking about getting one.
Yes, he would likely be facing life in a concrete and steel box had he prevailed. Which is exactly the result my conceal carry instructor taught. “If you shoot another person, you better have made the decision that life in prison was the better alternative. Because it may well work out that way.”
A self-defense gun is not a magic kill machine. Nor is it a, “Get off me!” talisman. And it goes without saying a gun is certainly not a, “Look at my gun and go away!” option. Pulling a gun on another human being says, “I intend to kill you to stop what you’re doing.” Pulling a gun is the end of ALL options. Full stop.
Are you an episode of The Rifleman? Pulling and pointing a gun is not an announcement that “I intend to kill you to stop what you’re doing.” It’s announcement that you’re willing, which is not the same. Unless you’re immediately squeezing the trigger, pointing a gun is: “Look at my gun and go away!”
My god no. If you go as far as to draw, your intent is to kill, or you don’t draw, or show. (In fact, just waving a gun about is considered “brandishing” and may be illegal where you live.)
Violence happens in fractions of a second. You don’t get to announce your intentions and see what happens next.
If you don’t get that, all good! But please don’t carry a gun.
I am a peaceful man because I choose peace. If you don’t have the choice, you are merely harmless.
Still trying, but still not seeing what you’re saying.
I’ve had guns pointed at me but not been shot. The intent wasn’t to shoot me or kill me. The intent was to get my attention. It worked. I’m still alive, and that’s a valid purpose for drawing a gun.
To be clear, I’m not talking about this incident, only talking about pulling and pointing a gun.
The difference between the two is simply a squeeze of the finger, which happens under a second. If the person on the other side of the gun does not respond as if the gun pointed at them will immediately be fired, they could die if they presume it’s just a “warning”, and have a natural right to self defense.
Hell of a lot to unpack here, but I’ll throw something out that many might not have seen.
A self-defense gun is not a magic kill machine. Nor is it a, “Get off me!” talisman. And it goes without saying a gun is certainly not a, “Look at my gun and go away!” option. Pulling a gun on another human being says, “I intend to kill you to stop what you’re doing.” Pulling a gun is the end of ALL options. Full stop.
All that to say, Laramore was not prepared to kill anyone with 2 rounds in his gun. He should never have picked it up if he wasn’t trained and prepared for self-defense. Guns are not fucking toys, and I have a solid feeling Laramore thought, well… whatever he thought was clearly wrong.
No, this is not victim blaming, just an observation that hopefully reaches anyone with a gun on their nightstand or thinking about getting one.
Yes, he would likely be facing life in a concrete and steel box had he prevailed. Which is exactly the result my conceal carry instructor taught. “If you shoot another person, you better have made the decision that life in prison was the better alternative. Because it may well work out that way.”
Are you an episode of The Rifleman? Pulling and pointing a gun is not an announcement that “I intend to kill you to stop what you’re doing.” It’s announcement that you’re willing, which is not the same. Unless you’re immediately squeezing the trigger, pointing a gun is: “Look at my gun and go away!”
My god no. If you go as far as to draw, your intent is to kill, or you don’t draw, or show. (In fact, just waving a gun about is considered “brandishing” and may be illegal where you live.)
Violence happens in fractions of a second. You don’t get to announce your intentions and see what happens next.
If you don’t get that, all good! But please don’t carry a gun.
I am a peaceful man because I choose peace. If you don’t have the choice, you are merely harmless.
Still trying, but still not seeing what you’re saying.
I’ve had guns pointed at me but not been shot. The intent wasn’t to shoot me or kill me. The intent was to get my attention. It worked. I’m still alive, and that’s a valid purpose for drawing a gun.
To be clear, I’m not talking about this incident, only talking about pulling and pointing a gun.
The difference between the two is simply a squeeze of the finger, which happens under a second. If the person on the other side of the gun does not respond as if the gun pointed at them will immediately be fired, they could die if they presume it’s just a “warning”, and have a natural right to self defense.
Real life isn’t television.
Your point remains invisible to me. What are you saying with lines like,
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After pulling a gun, numerous options remain.
lmao you just replied to your own comment not understanding what you wrote. We’re done here.